Pete Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I get why Cal and Stanford might have a gentleman's agreement regarding their future plans and wanting to stay attached at the hip, but why exactly are Oregon State and Wazzu on the outside looking in? Are they really that much dead weight relative to everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 If I'm Oregon and Washington I'm making damn sure that the B1G isn't interested before I join the Big XII 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 WASHINGTON STATE! DUKE! YOUR 2025 ACC-PAC 12 ALLIANCE BOWL! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 WASHINGTON STATE! DUKE! YOUR 2025 ACC-PAC 12 ALLIANCE BOWL! As a fan of a school in the ACC I'm all for this! This would slot both conferences above what'll eventually be the Group of 6, even with the distance a Conference Championship Game in Las Vegas is a million times more appealing than one in Charlotte, this would be for football so the other sports wouldn't have to make trips like Miami to Pullman, and the biggie the Big 12 is pretty much the Mos Eisley of college sports and it would be gross to be affiliated with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 In a move that probably should have been done before USC and UCLA left - the Pac 12 has pushed up its negotiations for it's media rights. Quote The Pac-12 is pushing up negotiations for its next media rights agreements in the wake of the decision by UCLA and USC to leave for the Big Ten. The Pac-12 announced that its board of directors authorized negotiations after a meeting Tuesday morning. The conference's current media rights deal expires in 2024, but the Pac-12 accelerated the timeline for negotiations for the next one with two of its marquee programs headed out the door. UCLA and USC announced Thursday that they are leaving the conference for the Big Ten in 2024, knocking the Pac-12 out of the nation's second-largest media market. The Pac-12 already had the lowest distribution number among Power Five schools, paying its member institutions $19.8 million in 2021, and losing the two Southern California schools would likely drop that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Pac-12 going through a lot of trouble for a conference that may not exist in a year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLowe Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 20 hours ago, Tabe said: RIP Pac-12. Kinda funny that it's the B12 killing them since it looked like the B12 might disappear not all that long ago. The Big12 minus UT & OU taking in UH, Cincy, and UCF was dumb and desperate at the time, and even more so now. Bet they wish they could call take backs on that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 21 hours ago, Pete said: I get why Cal and Stanford might have a gentleman's agreement regarding their future plans and wanting to stay attached at the hip, but why exactly are Oregon State and Wazzu on the outside looking in? Are they really that much dead weight relative to everyone else? WSU is, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Let's pop over to Storrs for a little bit and see how things are going rofl 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Supposedly, UNC, Florida State, Virginia and Clemson have reached out to the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tabe said: Supposedly, UNC, Florida State, Virginia and Clemson have reached out to the SEC. I've been trying to look into that myself. Haven't seen anything serious reporting it yet. I'd believe it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Kind of curious would this effectively kill the Pac 12 Network. Or will the Network turn into the Big 12 Network which I have been hoping for they created that fucking Longhorn Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 So would I be right in thinking Miami would probably try to squeeze into the B1G, if the ACC's falling apart? It'd seem to be a fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Ooof - UVA to the SEC is so the Maryland to ACC move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Dolfan in NYC said: So would I be right in thinking Miami would probably try to squeeze into the B1G, if the ACC's falling apart? It'd seem to be a fit. I would have thought they would try to stay with FSU but clearly everything is getting blown the fuck up I mean clearly UNC and Duke are gonna breakup and its gonna be weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Yeah. Duke and NC not playing each other in basketball is gonna suck, but hey, money's money. And I'd think if the ACC is indeed blowing up next, Miami, Duke, Pitt, and BC would go with the the B1G. Though I could see Canes athletic dept do something idiotic like try to make a new conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Ooof - UVA to the SEC is so the Maryland to ACC move I mean does the SEC think that Charlottesville is close to DC? I mean the idea of Blacksburg being in the DMV is such a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Duke is an obvious fit in terms of educational standards and improves the basketball blueprint of the conference a ton if they were to join the Big Ten. But damn would Duke football in the Big Ten be weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 If we are going to do super leagues in football then the concept of begin regulated has to exist. Time to put the Vanderbilt and Kansas and Rutgers in the AAC or the Sun Belt conference (if that still exists) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I'm trying to wrap my head around there being a national championship with these super conferences. If this new rumor for ACC teams to the SEC is true, then you're going to have two prestige college football leagues...and, uh, the Big 12 I guess. SEC and B1G will just have both of their conference champions that may as well be a defacto National Champion unless you decide to do a bowl game between the B1G champion and the SEC champion. Of course that raises obvious red flags in the event that one or both conferences have down years and you have an undefeated team from another conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Miami not being tied to any of this right now makes this a little bit more hilarious to me given they're FINALLY pretending like they're willing to invest in winning at football. Y'know, for real this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tabe said: Supposedly, UNC, Florida State, Virginia and Clemson have reached out to the SEC. Has a legit source confirmed this? Some dude with a swimming blog was the one who first tweeted this rumor. Also, wouldn’t the SEC be the ones reaching out to UNC & UVA? Purely to keep the B1G from taking them and getting a foothold in the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Mister TV said: Has a legit source confirmed this? Some dude with a swimming blog was the one who first tweeted this rumor. Also, wouldn’t the SEC be the ones reaching out to UNC & UVA? Purely to keep the B1G from taking them and getting a foothold in the south. Yeah that dude is the only one I have seen it from and since no one else has said anything in the couple of hours since.... Again don't always trust the blue check mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Mister TV said: Has a legit source confirmed this? Some dude with a swimming blog was the one who first tweeted this rumor. Also, wouldn’t the SEC be the ones reaching out to UNC & UVA? Purely to keep the B1G from taking them and getting a foothold in the south. Legit sources? Ain't nobody got time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I don't know how the ACC teams can possibly get out of their ESPN contract without paying out hundreds of millions of dollars. Th ACC TV rights deal is valid until 2036, it is at a huge discount compared to the other conferences and literally says, "Each of the Member Institutions acknowledges that the grant of Rights during the entire Term is irrevocable and effective until the end of the Term regardless of whether the Member Institution withdraws from the Conference during the term or ceases to participate as a member of the Conference." That means that if they leave the conference all television rights would still go to ESPN and the money would get split between ACC teams...which will no longer include them. So Clemson would play in the SEC, all their home games would be played on ESPN or the ACC Network, and that money would get split between the remaining ACC teams. Just imagine what a lawyer can get from someone trying to leave a contract 14 years in advance when the contract literally states that it is irrevocable for the duration. If you're ESPN, how much would you accept to let someone out of that deal more than a decade before it expires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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