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27 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

Let's not forget your rants about Cogar and how he was done in the business for selling an ACAB sticker. Uh, last check dude is fucking killing it in GCW and broke free of the Pittsburgh drama. So wrong again.

I actually did forget about that. "Career suicide" is how it was phrased. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Casey said:

Can I still buy that sticker or nah

Doesn't look like it. His Bigcartel only has three items listed right now, and two are sold out.

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As someone mentioned earlier, isn't the 90 Day non-compete completely up to the wrestler's discretion? They can choose to not work and keep getting paid for 90 days, or they can waive it and go work somewhere else right away? Andrade and FTR showed up in AEW right after finishing with WWE. Raven did the same years ago and showed up in TNA the same week.

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24 minutes ago, Swift said:

As someone mentioned earlier, isn't the 90 Day non-compete completely up to the wrestler's discretion? 

Looking into this based on the examples you gave and looking into the recent several rounds of releases, that doesn't appear to be the case. You have to request for it to be waived and they have to grant that request. Otherwise, you will have that 30 or 90 day non compete. It appears that Andrade's deal didn't have a non-compete at all, which is why he could go elsewhere right away. It sounds like several others (the more recent ones) tried to get it waived and were unsuccessful.

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2 hours ago, odessasteps said:

It would seem a poor deal on the employer if someone under contract could quit, waive their no compete payout and just show up in another promotion the same day. I’d think they would want protection on their end. 

I don't think anyone is arguing that because you (the employee) didn't hold up to your end of the contract. However, at the same time, you have the deal with what's an employee and an independent contractor and all that. But I get what you mean.

However, if you release me, you should pay the remainder of my deal and let me be. It should work BOTH ways. 

Moreover, what is the purpose of a non-compete anyway? None of these people are game changers. To give the 457th wrestler down on the totem pole a non-compete doesn't make sense.

The UFC is probably (even likely) more oppressive than the WWE, and they don't even do that type of shit. If you went 0-5 in the UFC, Dana isn't trying to stop you from fighting at some Indian casino in Oklahoma a week after you got released. I mean you don't get the money left on your deal (most of it isn't guaranteed anyway), but you're free to go and do whatever once they release you.

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You'd have to read the whole book, he goes into more detail on both. I read it ages ago and don't remember much about the Ross thing, but it's something to do with Bill Watts promising Sheikh a bunch of money, then telling him to pick the money up from Ross, and Ross denying all knowledge. So Sheikh assumed that Ross stole his money because he trusts Watts. Or something.

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