The Natural Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) The show debuts next Wednesday. First Marvel Studios TV series on Disney+ to start with two episodes. The series consists of six episodes. My interest in this is low because of Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye. I'm hoping the other things counteract that in Kate Bishop/Hawkeye played by Hailee Steinfeld, more of Yelena Belova/Black Widow as Florence Pugh stole the show in Black Widow (2021) and especially a certain rumour. I can see that as the cliffhanger for Ep2. Edited November 20, 2021 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 What’s the rumor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Log said: What’s the rumor? I'm assuming it's... Spoiler D'Onofrio back as Wilson Fisk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Christmas action show with a dog on the poster is the kind of Marvel content I want. Hope there's a decent amount of Florence Pugh and especially Tony Dalton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 That's the one, @Log posted by @christopher.annino. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I am honestly fired up about Tony Dalton being in this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 hours ago, christopher.annino said: I'm assuming it's... Reveal hidden contents D'Onofrio back as Wilson Fisk That's probably it since: Spoiler Fisk's adopted daughter and super assassin, Echo, is featured in Hawkeye and eventually will get her own spin-off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 That would be really cool, but I learned from Wandavision not to get caught up too much in rumors of character appearances. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 2:01 AM, The Natural said: I can see that as the cliffhanger for Ep2. It's not, I can tell you that much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Is this another 0300 ET drop tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) On 11/20/2021 at 3:01 AM, The Natural said: First Marvel Studios TV series on Disney+ to start with two episodes. Just being a pedantic prick here, but Wandavision dropped its first two episodes in week 1. And thank god for that, because episode 1 was such a going nowhere table-setter that gave no indication of what the series would be that people who didn't just go ahead and watch both might have been turned off. Edited November 24, 2021 by Technico Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Casey said: It's not, I can tell you that much. Bugger. 3 hours ago, Technico Support said: Just being a pedantic prick here, but Wandavision dropped its first two episodes in week 1. And thank god for that, because episode 1 was such a going nowhere table-setter that gave no indication of what the series would be that people who didn't just go ahead and watch both might have been turned off. Cool to be corrected, my friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Thus far, I think Hailee Steinfeld is the best part of the show. I've never been a fan of Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye. Just seems like he's being a deadbeat dad here and abandoning his kids for the holidays so he can mess around and play vigilante. Renner just has nothing in common with the character I grew up reading. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, TheVileOne said: Thus far, I think Hailee Steinfeld is the best part of the show. I've never been a fan of Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye. Just seems like he's being a deadbeat dad here and abandoning his kids for the holidays so he can mess around and play vigilante. Renner just has nothing in common with the character I grew up reading. I think that might be true for more than just Clint, esp among the big guns. Might also depend when people started reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I’m so curious as to why Echo is seemingly the boss of the Tracksuit Mafia or whatever. I wonder if Ronin killed her father instead of Kingpin like in the comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 Episode 1 starts at the Battle of New York as a young Kate Bishop loses her Dad, she and her Mum survive. Clint's in NY with his kids. Kate finds out her Mum is engaged to someone she doesn't trust with good reason as he attends an auction of Ronin gear. Bishop wears the Robin gear to escape and saves pizza dog. Clint then saves Kate. Episode 2. Clint to retrieve his stolen Ronin gear has to enter a RPG display group, he loses to get it back. He and Kate are captured by the tracksuit gang. Funny how Clint Barton gets his own series, something prominent to do and he's overshadowed by the legacy character in Kate Bishop/Hawkeye played by Hailee Steinfeld. Steinfeld is the best thing about this show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 Found this to be the weakest first two episodes of a Marvel Studios Disney+ show to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I disagree, WandaVision - for my tastes - really sucked until the final few episodes. It’s still easily my least favorite show out of everything we’ve gotten so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Casey said: I disagree, WandaVision - for my tastes - really sucked until the final few episodes. It’s still easily my least favorite show out of everything we’ve gotten so far. I have to disagree. I really liked WandaVision for the different sitcom formats even though I hardly watch them, theorizing who was responsible for what was happening and what grief can do to you. I thought the final few episodes were a step down from the earlier ones. I have Loki as the best show. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier as my least favourite. I still have seven What If...? episodes to watch. Edited November 24, 2021 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I have never read a single comic with Kayte Bishop. Not for any bias, just a matter of finances when she was introduced. So this is my first exposure to the character and I o far am enjoying it. The opening segnent hit kinda hard but I'm enjoying it thius far. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Casey said: I’m so curious as to why Echo is seemingly the boss of the Tracksuit Mafia or whatever. I wonder if Ronin killed her father instead of Kingpin like in the comics. That's sort of my hunch right now and why I imagine she wanted Ronin. But not that Ronin killed him, she was manipulated into believing this. I don't know why she's moonlighting as a thug. In the comics she was like a performance artist. Edited November 24, 2021 by TheVileOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 There are only six episodes right? Even at 50 minutes long, there’s a lot of ground left to cover. I liked it well enough. I’m used to Kate being a little more hard boiled and a little less dewy-eyed actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Clint Barton watching Rogers: The Musical reminded me of old Bruce Wayne watching in disgust a Batman musical with Terry McGinnis in Batman of the Future. Edited November 24, 2021 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Matt D said: There are only six episodes right? Even at 50 minutes long, there’s a lot of ground left to cover. I liked it well enough. I’m used to Kate being a little more hard boiled and a little less dewy-eyed actually. Yes, six episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I keep thinking Tony Dalton is Kevin Kline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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