Brian Fowler Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Shartnado said: I feel as if the concept peaked in the 80's. Had Windham and Tully made it to their respective matches, then the '89 Series could have been the pinnacle. 1991 could have been more than it was if Sid wasn't injured OR Savage and Jake weren't removed from the match Sid was supposed to be in. The 1990 version is memorable for a few reasons, but the Ultimate Survivor match ultimately (pun intended) ended up messing a few matches up, as far as more logical or at least satisfying booking, as far as endings go. The way they tried to keep Slaughter strong for Warrior and Hogan but not have him get in the ring with them was something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vgmastr Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said: The way they tried to keep Slaughter strong for Warrior and Hogan but not have him get in the ring with them was something. It seems like the match of survival was a big missed opportunity. You could have had Slaughter go over in his match and Bret go over Dibiase in his, then in the finale you have Hogan/Warrior/Bret vs. Slaughter and the Visionaries. After a heel or two is eliminated, have some kind of schmoz where Hogan, Warrior and Slaughter are all DQed. Now Bret is down 2 vs 1 or 3 vs 1 but gets the underdog babyface push and becomes the ultimate survivor. This way you setup your next two PPV main events and give a big push to a guy who's poised to get a big singles IC run in a few months. Instead it was just another way to have Hogan and Warrior go over the entire roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 The Nakamura/Priest match is on the pre-show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Seeing on Twitter via Fightful/SRS that as of this afternoon (subject to change at the whims of those in charge), Roman vs. Big E was supposed to open the main card and Becky vs. Charlotte was supposed to main event. Surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Arguably, the womens match has the most buzz, so it prob should go on last. Maybe if the mens match had a more unpredictable finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 Well that last match was just delightful. God damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 So the buildup to Rock vs Roman Reigns is going to be based on a fucking egg? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Based ppv 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 turns out that egg gives the Gobbedygooker his powers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, D.Z said: Based ppv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I saw that, it was cool. Raw won this years brand warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 The last WWE PPV of 2021. The first time since 1994 the company will not a have a December PPV. 27 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Whoever booked the women's SS match deserves to to be slapped. What I caught of the men's match was ok if a bit uninspired. Really dug the last 7-8 minutes of Roman/E. The stuff before failed to grab me. Wonder if Roman was supposed to hit his usual standing uranage or an actual Rock Bottom. He seemed to be halfway between the two, probably due to Big E's size. Charlotte/Becky had a flat ending but was otherwise fantastic. Was great seeing the two just try beat the hell out of each other and win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Eivion said: Whoever booked the women's SS match deserves to to be slapped. What I caught of the men's match was ok if a bit uninspired. Really dug the last 7-8 minutes of Roman/E. The stuff before failed to grab me. Wonder if Roman was supposed to hit his usual standing uranage or an actual Rock Bottom. He seemed to be halfway between the two, probably due to Big E's size. Charlotte/Becky had a flat ending but was otherwise fantastic. Was great seeing the two just try beat the hell out of each other and win. The agents involved sometimes comes out in the news/social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) That women's match was something. Crowd craps on the match as they do the wave.. Then Sasha and Bianca get the place going crazy. Then they have the very strange count out of Sasha. Lots of sloppy timing issues. Finally Bianca wins but the match falls flat because everyone wanted the Sasha vs. Bianca one on one to close it out. Roman vs. Big E was a tremendous hoss battle. They leaned way into The Rock appearing and teased it heavy and then... he didn't. We have a whodunit about Vince's Golden Egg. Lol. So yeah.. about Full Gear... Edited November 22, 2021 by Niners Fan in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Despite the tepid buildup this was a solid show. Nak/Priest and the Tag champions match were both fine, though I was surprised RKBro won. The men's SS match isn't going to go in the record books or anything but was decent. This and the women's match had way too much bickering between teammates. Speaking of the women's match, it fell way too flat in way too many places on account of the awkward timing and elimination decisions. Toni Storm looked strong in the time she got and Bianca coming from behind somehow still felt anticlimactic. Regardless of how legit the beef going into the Becky/Charlotte match they both did a good job whaling on eachother and having a great match until the lame finish. It's expected they didn't want either person going over clean but I thought it was a bit of a letdown. Roman/Big E delivered as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I expect Becky vs Charlotte to be worked like Bret vs Shawn at SS 97. Alot of brawling and strikes instead of a ton of flashy moves and spots you normally get from Charlotte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExcellenceofAirPollution Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I had it on on mute in the background. Can't say I paid a whole lot of attention. The crowd didn't look to be super into the show, and didn't sound it the times I unmuted. I feel bad for the wrestlers. Survivor Series was a childhood favorite but nostalgia can only get me so far My theory is Vince stopped caring as soon as stopped screaming SURVIIIIIVOR SERIIIIIES every year. Maybe the golden egg is like his Survivor Series urn and someone stole it to harness the power to book a better show next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Peak comedy. The event where no win matters. The 25th Anniversary of the Rock, which isn't even this year and he doesn't show up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 guess what's having it's 25th anniversary next November 9th, if we're talking about things that could inspire a cash-in having like 19 guys tap out in the "Bret Hart submissions only" elimination match/battle royal wouldn't be the biggest mass burial in the company, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: The way they tried to keep Slaughter strong for Warrior and Hogan but not have him get in the ring with them was something. Yeah, that was definitely one, and having Bret actually pull off the upset over Dibiase would have been the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 In the spirit of the Ultimate Survivor concept, a Roman/Usos/Nakamura vs Big E/RKBro/Damien Priest champions vs champions match really could be a change from having 4 champions vs champions matches on the same card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, MoeCristyV.1.6 said: Peak comedy. The event where no win matters. The 25th Anniversary of the Rock, which isn't even this year and he doesn't show up. True though I can't blame him with the current state of WWE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Hope you managed to have a good time, @Phantom Lord though I understand why you regretted getting tickets. Buyers remorse sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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