Craig H Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Ok, hold up. For the unfamiliar because they stopped watching WWE, what has happened with the women's division? I saw the one thing about there being only 19 minutes of wrestling for that entire women's tournament, which is horseshit. From reading what everyone is saying on here, it sounds like it's back to the bullshit Divas division stuff, like they entirely regressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I don't know if "stable wars" is something about which to look fondly, as least considering who were involved (NOD, DOA, Los Boricuas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Craig H said: Ok, hold up. For the unfamiliar because they stopped watching WWE, what has happened with the women's division? I saw the one thing about there being only 19 minutes of wrestling for that entire women's tournament, which is horseshit. From reading what everyone is saying on here, it sounds like it's back to the bullshit Divas division stuff, like they entirely regressed. Its a combo of that and the Charlotte/Becky/Ronda feud where no one not involved in title matches mattered. Its been like that this past month. Edited October 25, 2021 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Welp, congrats women's division? You're finally at the same level as the men's division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, odessasteps said: I don't know if "stable wars" is something about which to look fondly, as least considering who were involved (NOD, DOA, Los Boricuas). I wasn't watching during that period. I just think a faction or two among the women would be neat and give them something to work with. Then again they did fail miserably at doing anything with Riott Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Entire women's division has a reason to be on edge. Person at the top makes a fuss about shit booking like we'd all wish they'd make more often. "Charlotte's selfish." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eivion said: I wasn't watching during that period. I just think a faction or two among the women would be neat and give them something to work with. Then again they did fail miserably at doing anything with Riott Squad. Re: Gang Wars I can't think of one long feud like Gang Wars that produced like zero good matches. The fact that the careers of The Rock, Mark Henry, and D-Lo weren't immediately destroyed is a testament to them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Y'all act like there aren't people in AEW right now who aren't colossal assholes behind the curtain. It's admirable how hermetically sealed their drama is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: It's admirable how hermetically sealed their drama is. The booker/promoter writes shit down in a notebook like he's running an efed in 2003. How much drama can there be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Re: Gang Wars I can't think of one long feud like Gang Wars that produced like zero good matches. The fact that the careers of The Rock, Mark Henry, and D-Lo weren't immediately destroyed is a testament to them. So what I'm hearing is that I lucked that started watching regularly after that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Elsalvajeloco said: The booker/promoter writes shit down in a notebook like he's running an efed in 2003. How much drama can there be? Having been in efeds in 2003, a fucking LOT. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: The booker/promoter writes shit down in a notebook like he's running an efed in 2003. How much drama can there be? I dunno. Maybe we should open the floor to people who were in efeds in 2003. Edit: Photo finish @Raziel Edited October 25, 2021 by John from Cincinnati 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Entire women's division has a reason to be on edge. Person at the top makes a fuss about shit booking like we'd all wish they'd make more often. "Charlotte's selfish." It's also possible the rest of the division is content with the booking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The re-revalution of the wheat/chaff ratio in the Attitude Era has been valuable for wrestling history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Eivion said: So what I'm hearing is that I lucked that started watching regularly after that? That's like my favorite time in wrestling but boy WWF at that point was up and down. You can basically whittle down the best parts of Raw to about 17 minutes and save yourself 73 minutes of utter awfulness. Now that I think about it, you can probably do that now and add an hour on the awfulness side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Craig H said: It's also possible the rest of the division is content with the booking for them. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Craig H said: Ok, hold up. For the unfamiliar because they stopped watching WWE, what has happened with the women's division? I saw the one thing about there being only 19 minutes of wrestling for that entire women's tournament, which is horseshit. From reading what everyone is saying on here, it sounds like it's back to the bullshit Divas division stuff, like they entirely regressed. Not entirely true. The Queen's Crown tournament was completely bogus because there were 19 minutes total of ring action. However, Becky fought Sasha on SD! and that match itself was about 17 minutes. Then Charlotte fought Bianca on RAW and that match was pretty lengthy. it's a situation where they trust the 4 Horsewomen and Bianca (Asuka is hurt) but they don't trust anyone else.. unfortunately the rest of the women have gotten the divas booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raziel said: Having been in efeds in 2003, a fucking LOT. Shit, I just participated in them. I wasn't going to run shit. You may have been doing it wrong, lol. That said, if he doesn't like shit, he can real life fire people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: That's like my favorite time in wrestling but boy WWF at that point was up and down. You can basically whittle down the best parts of Raw to about 17 minutes and save yourself 73 minutes of utter awfulness. Now that I think about it, you can probably do that now and add an hour on the awfulness side. Nah, you can probably double the best to 34. Its just that its leave 146 minutes of mediocre to terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Eivion said: Nah, you can probably double the best to 34. Its just that its leave 146 minutes of mediocre to terrible. So like a Tarantino film? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: it's a situation where they trust the 4 Horsewomen and Bianca (Asuka is hurt) but they don't trust anyone else.. unfortunately the rest of the women have gotten the divas booking. Well they've got Female Kevin Owens doing spirit fingers. Alexa, who it appears the rest of the HW don't like for whatever reason, is sidelined. Once you get past Rhea and Storm... I don't know how much else you're going to draw out of the current roster. (Aside from Yim, who can go, but they've done nothing with.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, odessasteps said: I don't know if "stable wars" is something about which to look fondly, as least considering who were involved (NOD, DOA, Los Boricuas). The only person who liked that era was Kurt Sutter who I’m fairly sure based Sons of Anarchy on that whole period. 22 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: The booker/promoter writes shit down in a notebook like he's running an efed in 2003. How much drama can there be? I once won my efeds US title because the other guy didn’t turn in his roleplay in time. Led to an epic 3 day meltdown on the fed messageboard and numerous AOL chat summits. It eventually led to the promotion splitting in two. Good times. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Well they've got Female Kevin Owens doing spirit fingers. Alexa, who it appears the rest of the HW don't like for whatever reason, is sidelined. Once you get past Rhea and Storm... I don't know how much else you're going to draw out of the current roster. (Aside from Yim, who can go, but they've done nothing with.) Toni Storm boggles the mind. i thought for sure she'd be a key player. There's certainly a drop off talent wise once you get past the first 7-8 women on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) Shayna, Carmella, Liv, Shotzi, & Tegan have looked good before. Naomi has shown potential but never been given a chance to actually be tested. Aliyah has been perfectly decent-solid. Sonya was just starting to show something before the the stalker asshole put everything in WWE on hold for her. The division is far better than people think. WWE just doesn't give enough of a shit to book most of them in decent feuds or give matches time. Edited October 25, 2021 by Eivion 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Rhea leap-frogged Toni in NXT UK and never looked back. Wild that anyone expected anything more for her in the system after that. Sad, but nothing that I've read about where she's positioned surprises me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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