Shartnado Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Infinit said: Joe Hennig could've used the rub from his name without having his dad's gimmick. It's not like Randy Orton walks around with a cast on his arm. Although, very early on he did have a sling on his arm during those RNN updates! It's a miracle he was able to eventually get rid of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Happ Hazzard said: Around that time they did the same with just about everyone they repackaged, mention their "real"/former name on the first appearance and then the nickname became their ring name. Curt Hennig/Mr Perfect, Davey Boy Smith/British Bulldog, Kerry Von Erich/Texas Tornado, Ricky Steamboat/The Dragon. They didn't do it with Smash/Repo Man I would imagine because it was two complete gimmick characters, but also they never refenced Hawaiian Crush as the former Demolition Crush despite him using the same name so it might have also been because of the lawsuit over the Demolition name and gimmick. I've never seen Barry Windham's debut as the Widowmaker which is in this this timeframe so I don't know if they acknowledged him as Barry Windham, former 2 time tag champ, son of Blackjack Mulligan etc. He did it at WM6 as well, asking Gorilla if he knew "Perfect's old man, the Ax". It confused me as a new fan of American wrestling and I thought Demolition Ax was Mr Perfect's father for quite a while. Larry the Axe almost got as many shoutouts as Terry, Tyrell and Jayde... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Chris Hero definitely not a fan of Ospreay… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Wonder if WWE will drop the Flair last name for Charlotte. Anyway story resurfaces of Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty using ‘H-Bombs’ or Halcions on female fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Dan Lambert doing his best to give a shoot opinion without torpedoing his own gimmick. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 21 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said: I always catch myself thinking about the "Lost Generation" of US pro-wrestlers who existed after the demise of WCW/ECW and before the NXT talent raids. Like, I don't think we realized what was happening during those 18 years of WWE dominance and TNA futility. I don't think we realized it was a period in wrestling history when things were not the way they were supposed to be. Even (especially?) die-hard fans were so pessimistic about the whole thing that we just assumed wrestling wasn't ever going to be cool again, the UFC took all the legitimacy away, Benoit took away all the joy, the demise of WCW took away all the creativity, and somehow our favorite thing deserved to be portrayed to the masses as a largely stupid and childish form of entertainment. That's why I think it's really important to remember and celebrate the generation of wrestlers who peaked in that era and never got to make the millions of dollars & fans that they would have in any other. Off the top of my head, Homicide, Nigel McGuinness, and Chris Hero are the big-name indy superstars that come to mind but after that first tier comes a bunch of bigger what-ifs. Alex Shelley, Super Dragon, Eddie Edwards, maybe not headcases like Low Ki and Davey Richards. Really entertaining guys who would have gotten over as midcard acts, like a hypothetical 2002 ECW run with the Spanish Announce Team, or 2009 WCW running an odd CHIKARA tag in the first hour of Nitro. Who's to say an edgy rival doesn't counter-program the Cena era and doesn't do a Gage-esque short run with a deathmatch guy? I think the rawest deals went to the "sports entertainment" type guys who worked a real solid style but weren't flashy enough to win over spotmark indy fans, i.e. BJ Whitmer, Adam Pearce, Xavier, etc. Or European guys like Jody Fleisch who would have, at the very least, been able to garner a decent following with just a little US TV exposure or bigger US indies that could afford to fly them in. Or, here's a shocker, every woman who was in that first wave of SHIMMER talent - it is bullshit that people like Lacey or LuFisto never even had a chance to be famous. A majority of the PWG founders + early regulars had to eventually say "fuck it" and fall back on their day jobs, and I'm pretty certain time has already dimmed the glory of their deeds. Not to mention global talent like the cursed 3rd Generation of the NJPW dojo, the heavyweights that failed to inherent the throne of NOAH, and the dozens of luchadores who would have done a better job with the Sin Cara gimmick than Mistico. I guess what I'm saying is, this board was built on the discussion of monopoly-era indies and international wrestling so talking about these guys is second nature to a lot of us. But the rest of the wrestling fandom is pretty darn clueless. Don't allow these past decades to become the Dark Ages. Tell the children all your tales of B-Boy, "The Turkish Delight" Murat Bosporus, and Osamu Nishimura, or we will live in a world that will forget them. 1000 internet points for the Murat Bosporus reference. I probably would have gone Emil Sitoci if it were my post! This is a thing I ponder a lot, too. There was no shortage of Tv-ready (and potentially TV-ready) acts out there with no real options on that front. 2005 ECW would have been WILD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I feel bad for everyone having to work around Ospreay just because Japan doesn't give a shit. Gotta wonder how the locker room treats him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 22 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said: Or, here's a shocker, every woman who was in that first wave of SHIMMER talent - it is bullshit that people like Lacey or LuFisto never even had a chance to be famous. Lacey 100% absolutely should have been a star. I recently rewatched my old SHIMMER DVDs from back then and it was amazing how well Lacey holds up, both as a wrestler and as a character. A lot of women coming up today would do well to watch Lacey. She definitely had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 17 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: "Still has a 24-inch neck. he said i gotta lose 20 pounds... i said get your neck down to 18 you'll lose it!" It's super cool that you remember the quote pretty much word for word, and I doubt you just watched the match in order to do so! I remember that quote too, the show was shown on EuroSport minus 4 or so matches, which I did eventually check out from the Network! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The WWE roster draft is soon, we will see who switches to what brands. And who gets broken up tag team wise. Also if they do any post draft gimmicks. WWE Universal Champion Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre is planned for the 10/1 WWE Draft Friday Night Smackdown taping. But like cards say plans can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Stefanie the Human said: Lacey 100% absolutely should have been a star. I recently rewatched my old SHIMMER DVDs from back then and it was amazing how well Lacey holds up, both as a wrestler and as a character. A lot of women coming up today would do well to watch Lacey. She definitely had it. It was about three years into their existence, but I still maintain Madison Eagles never got a fair shake in the United States, and still hasn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 She was a Whovian before it was cool to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Stefanie the Human said: Lacey 100% absolutely should have been a star. I recently rewatched my old SHIMMER DVDs from back then and it was amazing how well Lacey holds up, both as a wrestler and as a character. A lot of women coming up today would do well to watch Lacey. She definitely had it. Also, the Minnesota Homewrecking Crew is just a bonkers good team name. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Shane said: 1000 internet points for the Murat Bosporus reference. I probably would have gone Emil Sitoci if it were my post! This is a thing I ponder a lot, too. There was no shortage of Tv-ready (and potentially TV-ready) acts out there with no real options on that front. 2005 ECW would have been WILD. Guys like Kenny Khaos missed out on being either in ECW of the WCW cruiserweight division and missed out on WWE being open to smaller talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 9 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Chris Hero definitely not a fan of Ospreay… Not only that, but one of Osprey's opponents looks uncannily like James Franco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Shartnado said: It's super cool that you remember the quote pretty much word for word, and I doubt you just watched the match in order to do so! i'm a fed era junkie for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonial Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Saw him wrestle twice in dark matches in 2001, and I still believe to this day that the WWE really dropped the ball with Steve Bradley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 5:05 PM, odessasteps said: I could see Vince taking Kevin and Mike begrudingly just to get Kerry. Maybe just make them a mid level tag team to earn a paycheck. A better version of what they did with Lanny to get Randy. I always felt it was more of a respect thing Vince felt about Fritz. Fritz innovated TV and also didn't give a fuck about the NWA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 hours ago, L_W_P said: But you can lean into Joe not being as good as Curt. I've posted it 20 times on here but he could have still been a delusional low-midcard heel who claimed he was "Perfect" but failed all the time. how does this put over Roman Reigns? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Heenan: I can guarantee you that they heard those chops all the way from Vietnam. …. Dusty: Hello, Bobby, are you there? Tony: Did you say “Vietnam”? Edit: Heenan: Super Calo… fragilistic expialidocious Dusty: I knew you were going to say that! Heenan: You had to. These things are like 2021 rifftrax, but they were done live in 1996. This is why I love AEW Dark today. Edited September 19, 2021 by LoneWolf&Subs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 With the addition of Eddie Kingston to Dark Elevation, commentary is the highlight of both shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Am I the only one who did not think Ospreay was teasing Chris Hero? Never even occurred to me, so I feel like Hero's kind of being an ass about the whole thing. Does Chris Hero have some connection to Will Ospreay or New Japan that I am blanking on? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 It's probably Hurricane Helms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 More than likely, Hero is getting spammed by idiotic Ospreay fans who think it's going to be him, and that's why he's so pissed off about it. It's probably just going to be Marty Scurll though. He said Hero, so clearly that means The Villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) I wanna think Hero DM’d Ospreay to ask what he was doing with the tweets. Also the thing about Ospreay’s teases, is that he’s used “Monster”, “Buddy”, and “Hero” to advertise the mystery partner. He’s also claimed the person is Australian. Unless this is accurate to the revealed individual, then he’s throwing out a bunch of random teases to gain interest. But then, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was Hero jumping the gun a bit. He’s always been a little too reactionary to things, like when he’s get into it with hecklers. I know one thing. Neither is backing down. It’s like a game of chicken between people on Twitter. Edited September 19, 2021 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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