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Biggest laugh of the night was Shida and Riho, especially Riho, going out like chumps. They were the champs!

I'm also surprised that Jade went out when she did, but I guess we got to keep that Nyla Rose train going. I like Nyla, but she's turning into Kane where she loses all the time, but every couple months we got to pretend they're an unstoppable monster.

I love battle royals, but the casino battle royal is such a bad concept. Why should we care what suits are drawn when we don't even know what suits people are in? For a company that has like 3 different backstage vlogs, how hard would it be to do segments with wrestlers drawing suits and then trying to form uneasy alliances with others in their suits?

The entrances are a whole mess onto themselves. How can we get 5 people in a match at once and ensure that none of them get any shine? Either you cut back to the ring and miss like 3 entrances or you just show the entrances and miss out on what's happening in the ring for longer than you'd want to. Once someone hits the ring, focus is immediately pulled from them because here come's Mongooooo. There's two ways I think you can improve it. First by spacing them out a little bit more...not so much that it ruins the idea of suits, but like maybe 15 seconds or so just to give the crowd time to register the new person that came in and let them get a little moment and not take focus off the ring for too long. OOOOORRRR you go completely the other way, eschew entrance music altogether, and literally have your 5 wrestlers run out at once and get some chaos and fighting going down the ramp as they come in.

All that said, it did get quite good once it calmed down and got down to the last 5 or so entrants. Like, shucks, you give your talent space and time to work and it will generally go well, you know?

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17 hours ago, The Natural said:

It's Monday. You know what that means.

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Done well on 75 minutes sleep. Couldn't switch off such was my enjoyment of this awesome show, professional wrestling done right. Will try and get some proper kip after this post. Cheers!

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DERP THOUGHTS

 

Big Show was fun. It was short enough and to the point and you got to be in awe of a legit giant. A spectacle that can be missing when you are surrounded by such massive bodies or the large individuals wrestle like small guys. I want a slow, intimidating strength, yet still limping with a slight vulnerability in my giants. We are witnessing something special merely because it exists, like the large neighborhood oak tree. He gave QT reasonable moments but largely his point is to crush bullies. Give me Giant and one face (Marko?) vs 4 jerks.

It was interesting to see got the larger pops from the women’s battle royale. I agree with the spin on bunched entries being problematic. I don’t watch the Dark shows, but I do now want to see a Big Swole entrance. The Bunny was great. Allie works the camera as well as Brit. I’m pretty sure Riho’s elimination was a botch. I was most excited to see her. The full match was kind of sloppy but those that shined did so, so the goal was met. Hirsch is a bad ass. Thunder Rosa is the top face. Nyla is the feared beast and Jade was booked to look like an impressive future threat to the division. I love Red Velvet’s fire. Abandon is scary and a solid gimmick. The ending was cool and brings an interesting new challenger we haven’t seen. Ruby does all the little things in the ring well. Her selling, face expressions, in between move body motions all were a joy to take in.

The best part about The Mad King vs The Redeemer is that it will lead to more from them. GIVE ME MORE BACKDROPS. Hopefully an intense tv special Main event.

Jericho vs MJF wasn’t for me but the crowd loves Jericho. I enjoyed the Dusty Finish and Inner Circle hug. 

Kris Statlander is awesome. I didn’t like the alien gimmick at first but she found the right balance. The crowd was more behind Brit at first but she is so impressive and the Made-ya-BOOP moment won everyone over. Plus seeing OC care and get pumped up was great. Brit is a great champion.

Cage match was neat. I love Penta taunting and the entrance pumped me up. A cage match revolving around thumbtack Shoes was unique and made for an enjoyable experience. These were the right titles to change hands. 

I’ll rewatch the main event. Was in and out, I like both people involved. The after match double swerve with Adam Cole and then Danielson was smart. I was legit disappointed in it being Cole, which worked as him being a heel. Then got even more excited by Danielson showing up. Brief let down to get me more excited. I’m excited for spazzy Elite promos about Cole’s moment being ruined. It all leads to the best going forward.

Mox vs Kojima was excellent. Kojima came across like a legend. Suzuki coming out was nuts and far from expected. I can’t wait for him and Mox to Murder each other.

Darby vs Punk was a smart match. Darby needing to go fast and dangerous, but risking his advantage constantly while Punk methodically took advantage and picked him a part. Teasing the G2S early with Darby flying at him and getting out of the ring got both characters across. Then the first G2S destroying Allin but leading to him collapsing to the outside showed that it is the finisher to end the match at any moment (which it finally did). Punk grounding Darby got the crowd behind Allin when it was a clear CM crowd. Got him over without winning. 

I’m sure I’m forgetting stuff, this was a packed show and their most impressive yet.

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39 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

 

2. Kenny falling on his ass trying the barrier moonsault

 

But then immediately came back and hit a more difficult version of the moonsault. An all-time face save.

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54 minutes ago, Matt D said:

I get all the angles, including having an irritating heel champ that is so good in the ring he keeps surviving and that Danielson was about to go out, but the Urkel thing was not the face the company wanted to put forward in that exact moment. I could see 1980 Buddy Rose in that spot with that sort of feel but he’d have picked something contemporary to be annoying about. They had enough going for them in that moment that it doesn’t matter in a bubble but it was pretty bad. 

I think part of the Elite’s charm for me is that it comes across as a meta commentary on how many wrestlers and fans their age were heavily influenced by 90s/00s cool heeling and how lame that is now. In a larger sense maybe it’s about millennials desperately grasping at pop culture nostalgia as a stop gap for ennui, anxiety, and despair, so the Urkel thing would play into that. Or they’re just having fun being dicks. That said, I don’t know what a casual or lapsed fan that bought this show would think of that, so you may be right. 

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Talking about Show/special attractions brings up a thought: THERE ARE NO BIG FAT GUYS IN AEW. There still aren't even that many hoss types. ROH has more than they do! So you know Tony, if you really want some balance in your programming, throw some money at Acey Romero or Beer City Bruiser and Brion Milonakis. 

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4 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

Who was the big guy that Cardona squashed a couple of weeks back? Was that Puf, and I just didn’t notice because he was wearing street clothes?

That was Sam Stackhouse, who I am not really familiar with.

e: Puf has some great gear, though I never noticed how short he is.

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8 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Talking about Show/special attractions brings up a thought: THERE ARE NO BIG FAT GUYS IN AEW. There still aren't even that many hoss types. ROH has more than they do! So you know Tony, if you really want some balance in your programming, throw some money at Acey Romero or Beer City Bruiser and Brion Milonakis. 

I think this is why I was so into the Bear Country signing, they come pretty close to filling that void

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5 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Talking about Show/special attractions brings up a thought: THERE ARE NO BIG FAT GUYS IN AEW. There still aren't even that many hoss types. ROH has more than they do! So you know Tony, if you really want some balance in your programming, throw some money at Acey Romero or Beer City Bruiser and Brion Milonakis. 

Does Jungle Boy know who Urkel is?

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I managed to avoid results last night and watched this morning. I haven’t read through this thread yet or, for that matter, seen any reactions online. I just want to jump right in and say that in nearly 40 years of watching wrestling, that might be the best show I’ve ever seen. 

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Man, there were a litany of monster pops last night. Arguably the sneaky loudest was actually the Lucha Bros winning that cage match. The crowd came UNGLUED for that. Can't wait to see their future defenses - those guys deserve it. How about that spear by Red Velvet and the sell by Jamie Hayter? Hell yeah! Respect to Moxley for using TWO Paradigm Shifts to put away Kojima as opposed to one, trying to show he's a legitimate threat.

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The thing about Abadon is, she was actually cleverly booked given the amount of folks they have to work with. She got a "freaks out another wrestler" spot, got to eliminate the hometown underdog, and then got pitched immediately to defuse any negative reaction from said underdog being tossed.

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So on one hand I see the risk of last night’s booking resulting in Adam Cole maxing out at the Scott Hall or Tully Blanchard of AEW. There are a lot of similarities there (“Bay Bay” = “survey time”, Tully’s stooging), even if Cole isn’t the in ring worker Tully in particular was. 

But then again, maybe Scott Hall IS the best possible version of Adam Cole character-wise? And there’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Like I’d rather have him stooging around and interacting with the crowd along with 15 minute matches than the 40 minute nonsense he was doing In NXT 

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If Adam Cole turns in a career remotely as commercially successful as Scott Hall/Razor did he will have had one hell of a run, and AEW will have been watched by many millions more eyes. Of the 3 incomers he has by far the most to prove, as he’s as yet never been on a commercial level similar to Punk/Danielson key runs. Entering his prime though, so will be interesting to see what they do with him. Less urgency to put him immediately over the top.

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I wonder how many people come up to Cole and ask him what it’s like to be the next Shawn Michaels. Sorry…mistyped that, what it’s like to be dating the next Shawn Michaels. 

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19 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:

So on one hand I see the risk of last night’s booking resulting in Adam Cole maxing out at the Scott Hall or Tully Blanchard of AEW. There are a lot of similarities there (“Bay Bay” = “survey time”, Tully’s stooging), even if Cole isn’t the in ring worker Tully in particular was. 

But then again, maybe Scott Hall IS the best possible version of Adam Cole character-wise? And there’s nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Like I’d rather have him stooging around and interacting with the crowd along with 15 minute matches than the 40 minute nonsense he was doing In NXT 

Agreed, but the beautiful thing about AEW's booking philosophy and its talent depth is that he will get his moment to shine, but he'll largely be doing shorter matches, and quite a few tag matches at that. Not even their champ Omega is out there doing 40 minute matches, and he wrestles in tags most of the time. This better be the last ppv world title defense with a no hope challenger though. 

So with the Virginia Dynamite the week following Full Gear, I think it's safe to say Page will not be challenging at NYC. When do we get that gnarly multiman tag that was hinted at last night? I cannot wait to see Danielson in the mix with these fuckers. Christian and Bryan teaming before the inevitable Christian heel turn needs to happen. If they didn't just do a war games in May, that would be the perfect time for Christian to turn on Jungle Boy but they did. 

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