BrianS81177 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I bet they started with Spears to get people thinking it would be Jericho having to go through all the Pinnacle members only to throw the surprise of Nick Gage out there 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Aww. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Spears is a Canuck. Maybe they’re friendly with one another, and Jericho did him a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Another presale code for United center: AEWDANCE Presale begins 10am local time today through Sunday. General on sale is Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Motherfucker, so this *wasn't* the plan. I'll be honest, that's pretty disappointing. Unless the thought process is: let's use the new signings to grow the show so more people see Hangman win, let's say at Winter is Coming or Revolution or something. But we'll never know unless it actually goes down that way, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 This company has earned enough goodwill with me that I’m willing to play the “Let’s See How It Plays Out” card, but this immediately strikes me as a bad decision. At least in terms of their plans of making Hangman a top guy. Like, you can always come back to him later, but I don’t know if the timing/situation is ever going to be as perfectly set up as this. Everything was peaking for him at just the right time. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 LOL 2000 people ahead of me in queue... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I agree. I've said it before and I will say it again, Hangmans time is now. The ONLY reason I could see them pumping the breaks is because his wife is pregnant and they know he's gonna take time off sooner rather than later. However I argue that a short title run and being "taken out" for a few months is probably better than just straight up waiting. I also am willing to wait and see where it goes, but I'll be honest, I hate this move. The last 16 months have been for Hangman and now we pivot just because of Punk or Danielson? That seems to go against what Punk or Danielson would want (you'd think they wouldn't mind Hangman fulfilling his storyline), but maybe they do wanna wait til Revolution? Someone said that's their Mania. I disagree, I think it's All Out but AEW does do a fantastic job of making all their PPVs feel BIG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, EVA said: This company has earned enough goodwill with me that I’m willing to play the “Let’s See How It Plays Out” card, but this immediately strikes me as a bad decision. At least in terms of their plans of making Hangman a top guy. Like, you can always come back to him later, but I don’t know if the timing/situation is ever going to be as perfectly set up as this. Everything was peaking for him at just the right time. I agree with you, but can understand if you have Punk and Danielson possibly on that show. That would push Hangman's win down on the list of "cool things that happened at All Out" list. I think Page will get the belt at some point, but it might be better after the dust settles a bit on these new signings. That way, he really gets his moment without it being too overshadowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I mean, the Page story still makes perfect sense to me. Dark Order told him not to be afraid of failure and that they'd stick with him even if he failed. With hindsight, for that moment to actually mean something, Page should probably fail at some point. Then he lost the 5-on-5 match, so he lost his title shot at All Out. "As soon as Page believed in himself and tried, he won the title" is imo not of good a story as "Kenny was also actually a really good wrestler and it took Page more than one try to beat him". Bonus points if there's some story element that shows us another change Page has to make in order to get the win. If Dark Order turns on Page, that's bad. If Kenny drops the title to anyone other than Page, that's bad. I don't think either of those things will happen. Whoever Kenny defends the title against at All Out, I see that as kind of a placeholder title defense. It might not even main event the show. If we go into another COVID lockdown and they put the story on ice again like they did last time, that's bad. That one is a real danger. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 For card collectors out there I was hoping for Panini frankly but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 7:07 PM, Brandon Bones said: I gotta say. I really enjoyed the match. I’m genuinely afraid of Gage getting AEW into some trouble this week. I am so smart. S M R T! I’m 1 out of a million in guessing shit right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 United Center show is moving tickets like hotcakes. We love to see that. Looks like it will sell out today tbh 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Section 101 Row 19 Fucking awesome 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I'm a bit out of step with the zeitgeist on Page, I guess, as I kind of felt All Out was too soon to put the belt on him anyway. Of course, I expected him to earn the title shot but come up short on his first attempt, only to finally win it some time next year. Him losing the elimination match was a downer to me, but as SKoS points out it works narratively. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Krone Meltzer said: I agree. I've said it before and I will say it again, Hangmans time is now. The ONLY reason I could see them pumping the breaks is because his wife is pregnant and they know he's gonna take time off sooner rather than later. However I argue that a short title run and being "taken out" for a few months is probably better than just straight up waiting. I also am willing to wait and see where it goes, but I'll be honest, I hate this move. The last 16 months have been for Hangman and now we pivot just because of Punk or Danielson? That seems to go against what Punk or Danielson would want (you'd think they wouldn't mind Hangman fulfilling his storyline), but maybe they do wanna wait til Revolution? Someone said that's their Mania. I disagree, I think it's All Out but AEW does do a fantastic job of making all their PPVs feel BIG. I think All Out should be their Mania too, but I want to say TK or someone else high up said they viewed Revolution as their Mania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 And I didn't think I would get tickets. Everything I clicked on that was supposedly available would come up showing that those tickets were gone. So then I'd try again and the same thing. I think I eventually just lucked out. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krone Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Craig H said: And I didn't think I would get tickets. Everything I clicked on that was supposedly available would come up showing that those tickets were gone. So then I'd try again and the same thing. I think I eventually just lucked out. Sometimes a little luck goes a long way. Enjoy being a part of what could go down as one of the most important shows in wrestling history with maybe one of the biggest pops in wrestling history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Awesome, I'm so glad you guys got in. Super, super impressive they're doing this well with THREE OTHER Chicago shows booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, caley said: Nice. As much as I want this to be over and feel they should have done the title change during their residence in Daily's Place rather than holding off, people had become too comfortable with what they think they know about where things are going. Good to see Tony finally showing an inclination toward messing with the audience's expectations. Maybe he's not completely hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I know Jacksonville is where their offices are, but I tend to view Chicago as their home base and I didn't think they would have that hard of a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, John from Cincinnati said: Nice. As much as I want this to be over and feel they should have done the title change during their residence in Daily's Place rather than holding off, people had become too comfortable with what they think they know about where things are going. Good to see Tony finally showing an inclination toward messing with the audience's expectations. Maybe he's not completely hopeless. Speaking only for myself, I think it's a bit of mild PTSD from the absolutely baffling shit the competition has been doing with regard to things like this in the last two decades. It becomes hard to see the "subversion" trees in a forest of "SWERVE, BRO!" if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Here’s how I feel about concerns regarding Hangman’s title win being overshadowed by Punk/Bryan: If he’s really what AEW thinks he is, if he’s really The Guy, if he’s got the stuff to be a top star on the level with those type of guys...then he’s NOT going to get overshadowed. If anything, you’re helping him cement his status as The Guy by putting him over in a big way right when there are (potentially) a lot of new eyeballs on your show. Not trying to make a perfect 1-to-1 comparison here, but this feels like if WWE decided to kick the can down the road on Austin in the run-up to WM14. Again, not saying he’s Austin 97 or anything, but these crowd responses are fucking HOT, man. Timing is everything with paying off a push, and you can’t squander it. Tough to recapture the magic of thousands upon thousands of people collectively willing something to happen. Edited July 30, 2021 by EVA 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Nice. As much as I want this to be over and feel they should have done the title change during their residence in Daily's Place rather than holding off, people had become too comfortable with what they think they know about where things are going. Good to see Tony finally showing an inclination toward messing with the audience's expectations. Maybe he's not completely hopeless. I do feel like it was too inevitable. But I also feel like Kenny needs an actual threat to his title for all out, punk wrestling on the show or not. Nobody has felt like they had a legit shot because we were waiting for Hangman. I didn't think it would be quite this fast but come on now at the idea of them needing to book him in a match. If we know one thing in wrestling it's Chicago's love for Punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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