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Kingston/Hero seems more like "really dislike each other" vs Punk/Cabana suing each other. Yeesh. 

Y'all are just kidding when you're talking about Punk and Danielson coming in like Hall and Nash, right?

 

...right?!

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2 hours ago, Morganti said:

For those aware of hip hop beef. See 50cent vs Ja Rule

Fair, I guess it's not a hard and fast rule.

By the way, how great of an episode of Beef was that, with 50 being interviewed on the balcony? (To keep it on topic, he does say at one point 'This ain't no WWF'). He had a lot of great lines in that one. "I stay in the hood 'cause I'm that hood, you stay in the hood 'cause you stuck there" is an all time great.

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15 hours ago, Ultimo Necro said:

It’s been long debated if it’s a work or a shoot, but seems to stem from Kingston feeling that Hero ran Blackjack Marciano out of the business after an injury.  I also believe they just don’t generally get along.  It also seems to extend to Cesaro & Kingston which is kind of weird.

Eddie said in an interview recently that Cesaro was supposed to put him over before he went to WWE. I think it was Chikara, maybe? Wherever they were together before. Then Cesaro refused on the day of. Eddie appears to be a bit of a grudge carrier.

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11 minutes ago, just drew said:

Eddie said in an interview recently that Cesaro was supposed to put him over before he went to WWE. I think it was Chikara, maybe? Wherever they were together before. Then Cesaro refused on the day of. Eddie appears to be a bit of a grudge carrier.

I would assume it would have been in Chikara, but a quick look through the end of Cesaro's time there it never looks like they had a logical match. They were doing a G1 style block tournament for the Grand Champion and neither Cesaro or Kingston were in the same block.

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Wait, what's this about Hero and AEW anyway? I don't recall seeing anything about Hero joining AEW in some capacity. The last thing I saw about Hero was the he worked a ROH show as an agent or something.

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3 minutes ago, Craig H said:

Wait, what's this about Hero and AEW anyway? I don't recall seeing anything about Hero joining AEW in some capacity. The last thing I saw about Hero was the he worked a ROH show as an agent or something.

Nothing there, just armchair hiring by fans. 

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4 minutes ago, Craig H said:

Wait, what's this about Hero and AEW anyway? I don't recall seeing anything about Hero joining AEW in some capacity. The last thing I saw about Hero was the he worked a ROH show as an agent or something.

Oh, that was my fault, I brought him up. Someone was suggesting a Punk/Bryan NWO-type invasion, and I said that when Bryan and Joe left WWE, I had the same idea and another poster at that time said Hero would be a great fit, so I was just revisiting that conversation now that Joe is unavailable. 

Edit: lol what Wolf said much more succinctly, basically

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9 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I don’t know how to feel about Hero. He’s not the guy I thought he was going to be. If he was hired, he’d be just a good hand with credibility, like Colt, Joe, and Regal.

I agree with the first half of your post. Just kinda... fell off the radar. And Im a fan of the guy, that's not shit talk. I'm sure a lot of it was timing with the pandemic, but who knows. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing.

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56 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

I agree with the first half of your post. Just kinda... fell off the radar. And Im a fan of the guy, that's not shit talk. I'm sure a lot of it was timing with the pandemic, but who knows. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing.

He had such a great indy run after his first NXT stint, just so much good stuff.  Then he went back to NXT, which was such a head-scratcher, and really did nothing as far as I can tell.  Then he was released over a year ago and there was some buzz but then he didn't do anything.  Now it's a few wasted years and he's in his early 40s and nobody's really talking about him.  I like Hero a lot but I'm not sure what else there could be for him.

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He started a podcast, Chris Hero, but he put it on Ad Free Shows. And the people who are subbed to that are into old school 80s/90s Wrestling, so it's not making the mark you'd think.

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1 minute ago, AxB said:

He started a podcast, Chris Hero, but he put it on Ad Free Shows. And the people who are subbed to that are into old school 80s/90s Wrestling, so it's not making the mark you'd think.

I did totally forget about that. I didn't get much into it, but do remember there being a lot of Reddit chatter about it at the time now that you mention it.

 

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I'm just blown away that, between a second NXT stint where not much happened and not doing anything since his release, he's done nothing really notable in five years.   That time between his release and now really gets to me.  The dude made a big thing on social media about the return of Chris Hero, and then nothing outside of a podcast nobody listens to.

I remember after his first release, he went on Colt's podcast to promote some sort of wrestling training gimmick he was doing.  Nothing came of that.  Maybe that's just Hero; more of a planner than a doer.

 

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21 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Maybe that's just Hero; more of a planner than a doer.

Dude, that's been the story of my life.  If I remember to organize the basement it might as well be a minor miracle.

I like Hero but unless he comes back and crushes it I think the ship has sailed for him.  It may also depend on his priorities in life as that might have changed for him too.

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1 hour ago, D.Z said:

We may be getting Queen of the Ring...

...where the poor woman that wins it is immediately shifted to a sugar mama for Baron Corbin so he can go back to living the high life.

Fixed that for ya pal. Now it's good shit. lol

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It'll be a joke, just like the first women's MITB featured James Ellsworth helping Carmella win, like Kid Rock getting 15 minutes so the divas could enter to his awful music, and the 2nd (or 3rd?) women's rumble had Santina enter it. Expecting dignity from Vince booking the women is to ask for the impossible. 

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The Hero- Kingston beef definitely started with Marciano. Claudio and Hero are like brothers so it's natural that he would have Hero's back.

I remember Hero saying that his whole life is wrestling and questioned Kingston's commitment. This was back in 04 or 05.  

My wife used to enjoy wrestling. Not a huge fan but would watch it with me, knew enough of it to know who was who.  I took her to a show that had AJ vs Punk, Southern Comfort vs Midnight Express,  Sabin vs SJK, just a stacked card. Our own @Gormanwas on commentary I believe.  Well long story short Kingston fell outside the ring and landed by my wife's feet. She backed up and he said "you should stay in the kitchen"  no big deal.  Well a few mins later he spat and it hit her.  She was furious. To this day she refuses to go to a show.  Fucking killed wrestling for her. 

Hero on the other hand is a different breed. I'd venture many of us spent time chatting with Chris back in the AOL messenger days. He was always polite and if he saw you at shows he always had time for pics or to chat. He could come off as a dick at times but all humans can. I was a huge fan of his early IWA-MS work and always wanted to see him get a good WWE or NJPW run. He and Claudio could have easily won tag league and been huge together in NJPW. WWE not bringing up Hero and tagging Shemus with him instead will always be a head scratcher to me. 

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