LooseCannon Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I would have been sympathetic if Martin's response to all this involved bringing a gun to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 No amount of cute animals can cover the mess in that report. Damn. The Pearl Harbor story....jeez. Definitely puts a spotlight on the Dolphins franchise and its troubles these last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Might be the time to listen to lebatards show again today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I don't follow the Dolphins that closely because I just don't give a shit about them, but are either of these two clowns even good players? I'd never heard of Martin before this came out, and hasn't Incognito been released like 3 or 4 times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Incognito is seen as a solid linesman. Martin is supposedly subpar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Incognito is seen as a solid linesman. He is? I always remember him as a goof known for getting 15 yard penalties at the wrong time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 He's known for that, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFozzie Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Nothing like a fine book (ie, a book of players being fined for breaking Offensive Line rules) where you repeatedly call someone a pussy. (oh, and Icognito knew this was damning.. when he first got suspended he texted another player and begged them to destroy the evidence. They didn't.) Then again, considering the lack of success from the Dolphins O-line last year, I'm not surprised they got.. (puts on sunglasses, CSI style) caught holding. Dolphins Line Kept A "Fine Book"; Incognito Tried To Destroy Evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So would the fine book be viewed as a salary cap issue or is it ok since it wasn't a team thing up a player thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 He's known for that, too MULTI-FACETED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 You are all so lucky I'm on a bus right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 You are all so lucky I'm on a bus right now. Richie Incognito would fine you for being on a bus right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 A fine for being a bussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 You are all so lucky I'm on a bus right now. "Say what?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 The wheels on the bus go round and round All over fans Of the Dolphins Their season was chum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Both things we thought to be true appear to be true, Incognito comes off like a bipolar dickhead, but Martin comes off as exceedingly hypersensitive. Hypersensitive? Please Dude called him "shine box" and other sorts of racist bullshit repeatedly. Incognito is lucky Martin wasn't a young Mean Joe Greene as he would've had a railroad spike driven into his skull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Both things we thought to be true appear to be true, Incognito comes off like a bipolar dickhead, but Martin comes off as exceedingly hypersensitive. Hypersensitive? Please Dude called him "shine box" and other sorts of racist bullshit repeatedly. Incognito is lucky Martin wasn't a young Mean Joe Greene as he would've had a railroad spike driven into his skull I'm not saying Incognito was in the right. But Martin seemed to take everything directly on the chin. Calling him hypersensitive was more observation than criticism. Hell, if I were to honestly assess myself, I'M hypersensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Both things we thought to be true appear to be true, Incognito comes off like a bipolar dickhead, but Martin comes off as exceedingly hypersensitive. Hypersensitive? Please Dude called him "shine box" and other sorts of racist bullshit repeatedly. Incognito is lucky Martin wasn't a young Mean Joe Greene as he would've had a railroad spike driven into his skull I'm not saying Incognito was in the right. But Martin seemed to take everything directly on the chin. Calling him hypersensitive was more observation than criticism. Hell, if I were to honestly assess myself, I'M hypersensitive. Ah, gotcha. My bad, Josh, for insinuating otherwise Still stand by statement that Incognito is lucky he wasn't dealing with a 21-year-old Mean Joe Greene Oakland fans know what it's like rooting for a dysfunctional franchise, so this one's for you Dolfan and other Bottlenose fans: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I didn't read all 90 pages or however long the report is, just what was in NYT today and brief snippets from ESPN. And I'm sorry, but I don't think Incognito deserves all the blame he's getting. Are some of the things he said disgusting? Sure. Racist? Yup. Uncalled for? Absolutely. But that's the mentality of a men's locker room. To call this a "classic case of bullying" is absurd. As someone who was both bullied a lot at a younger age (most likely more than the typical case), none of my tormentors ever ended a session with "If you need anything I'm here for you." Speaking as someone who was also on team sports later in life, none of this seems out of the ordinary. I can't tell you the number of times either after practice, or on the bus going to a game there would be a chant of "So-and-so's sister sucks dick" or "So-and-so's girlfriend fucks like a dead fish." When you get a lot of testosterone together in one placed, coupled with a competitive, physical atmosphere, this shit is bound to happen. Professional and non-professional levels alike. Now, I don't know if this is a typical example of NFL lockerroom behavior (And I don't think anyone else here does either, for obvious reasons, but smart money says it is), but clearly after Incognito and co. saw the effects they were having on Martin, they should've let up. But don't go fooling yourselves into thinking this is an isolated incident, and that "policy changes" and whathaveyous can be enacted to ensure this doesn't happen again. Because it will. Not just in the NFL, but any physically intensive, male-dominated sport. Oh, but you do know the ONLY time there wasn't a "So-and-so's mom eats ass" chant going on? When we had female managers on the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Let's remove Martin and the other player from the situation for a moment. What did the trainer do to deserve being verbally abused? And he was in no position to really defend himself against it. The man doesn't make enough money to put up with that BS. Foul language, crude jokes--most people realize and accept that many pro athletes engage in such behavior when we're not looking. But I think the average athlete has the good sense to leave staff members out of it. Then again, Incognito fondled a woman with a golf club. Dude isn't the paragon of good sense and discretion. The behavior had long past the threshold of no return before Martin stormed out of the Dolphins' cafeteria. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 There was Shula, there was Jimmah, and then there's been a fuckload of substitute teachers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm not going to read that huge rant from Antacular, but I will pose a question... How awful would you think Incognito is if he orders WWE Network and the first thing he watches is Over the Edge 1999? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If you didn't read it, then clearly you don't know whether or not I consider Incognito an awful person. But to honestly answer your question, somewhere between Benoit and and a guy who brings his 7 year old to the 10 PM showing of the new Robocop movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 $100- high horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 $1,000. It's a thoroughbred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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