RazorbladeKiss87 Posted March 8 Posted March 8 Piper on commentary is really bad, tp me. Talking about anything other than the match and really distracting from the action. 2 1
J.H. Posted March 8 Posted March 8 Piper on commentary in Georgia was gold. You always got the feeling anything could hapoen. Piper on commentary in WWF is... meh James 1
Technico Support Posted March 8 Posted March 8 9 hours ago, zendragon said: Watching some off these early 90's uploads on The Vault I'm feeling that Jim Neinhart is a better color commentator than Savage or Piper. I feel the later two spend too much energy putting over their own gimmick as opposed to Jim just trying to put over the matches Absolutely. Savage’s shtick was best in promos. Babyface Savage on commentary was a corny dork. 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted March 8 Posted March 8 7 hours ago, J.H. said: Piper on commentary in Georgia was gold. You always got the feeling anything could hapoen. Piper on commentary in WWF is... meh James I have one word to describe Piper's commentary in the WWF...cocaine. 3
zendragon Posted March 8 Posted March 8 He was probably holding for Vince which is why he got the job
Nice Guy Eddie Posted March 8 Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, zendragon said: He was probably holding for Vince which is why he got the job Maybe that's how Neidhart got the commentary gig. Of all people, he seems like an odd choice for commentary.
zendragon Posted March 8 Posted March 8 Well Bret was starting his singles push so they where looking for something for him to do. He comes across as an ex athlete doing color as opposed to a cartoon. Probably due to his football background, in hindsight they could have put him with Owen instead of doing High Voltage 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted March 8 Posted March 8 They did put Neidhart with Owen as The New Foundation, which lasted until before WM8, when Neidhart was fired. Owen ended up working a singles match at WM8 against Skinner. 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted March 8 Posted March 8 1 minute ago, zendragon said: I had no idea this was a thing in 91 Check out their match against the Orient Express at the '92 Royal Rumble. 4
Technico Support Posted March 8 Posted March 8 It’s fascinating, but obvious in retrospect, how promos and commentary are totally different skillsets. 1 1
J.H. Posted March 9 Posted March 9 7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I have one word to describe Piper's commentary in the WWF...cocaine. Are you implying he wasn't on coke in Mid-Atlantic/Georgia? James
Nice Guy Eddie Posted March 9 Posted March 9 8 hours ago, J.H. said: Are you implying he wasn't on coke in Mid-Atlantic/Georgia? James I'm sure he was, but I've never heard Piper's commentary from Mid-Atlantic/Georgia.
Shartnado Posted March 9 Posted March 9 16 hours ago, zendragon said: I had no idea this was a thing in 91 And an awesome thing at that! 1
SirSmUgly Posted March 9 Posted March 9 19 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Maybe that's how Neidhart got the commentary gig. Of all people, he seems like an odd choice for commentary. Bret claimed that Vince wanted to get value back after having paid for Neidhart's lawyers during his countersuit against whatever airline claimed he attacked a flight attendant.
The Natural Posted March 9 Posted March 9 My hot take: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker Hell in a Cell at In Your House 18: Badd Blood is the best Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker match. It's a ***** classic better than their other ***** classic at WrestleMania XXV. Who's with me and Brian Fowler? 3
J.H. Posted March 9 Posted March 9 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Natural said: My hot take: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker Hell in a Cell at In Your House 18: Badd Blood is the best Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker match. It's a ***** classic better than their other ***** classic at WrestleMania XXV. Who's with me and Brian Fowler? Wasn't it DEAN~! Who said no match where the finish is the Undertaker's evil brother comes out from underneath the ring to cost him the match can't be 5 stars James Edited March 10 by J.H.
The Natural Posted March 9 Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, J.H. said: Wasn't it DEAN~! Who said no match where the finish is the Undertaker's evil brother comes out from underneath the ring to cost him the match can be 5 stars James If it was, it's the only time I disagree with the great man. Love and miss you, DEAN. 1
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted March 9 Posted March 9 40 minutes ago, J.H. said: Wasn't it DEAN~! Who said no match where the finish is the Undertaker's evil brother comes out from underneath the ring to cost him the match can be 5 stars James I mean, if he did, it's not applicable, because Kane didn't come out from under the ring, he ripped off the cage door. 1 1
twiztor Posted March 9 Posted March 9 4 hours ago, The Natural said: My hot take: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker Hell in a Cell at In Your House 18: Badd Blood is the best Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker match. It's a ***** classic better than their other ***** classic at WrestleMania XXV. Who's with me and Brian Fowler? i found their Mania matches to be overwrought and they got worse as time went on. I would totally be on the HIAC match is their best bandwagon. 3 hours ago, J.H. said: Wasn't it DEAN~! Who said no match where the finish is the Undertaker's evil brother comes out from underneath the ring to cost him the match can be 5 stars haha, i agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly. But i do love that match. I also believe the John Cena/Kevin Federline match to be absolute perfection, so maybe nobody should trust my ranking system. 1
supremebve Posted March 10 Posted March 10 9 hours ago, J.H. said: Wasn't it DEAN~! Who said no match where the finish is the Undertaker's evil brother comes out from underneath the ring to cost him the match can be 5 stars James I disagree. I feel like if the Undertaker's evil brother pops up out of nowhere to cost him the match, and you leave thinking, "Wow, that was a great match," it is possibly the only reason you should break your match scale to go over five stars. Saying that a match was so great that you forgive the fact that it brought Kane into your life is a hell of a statement. And it's true. 1
zendragon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 16 hours ago, J.H. said: Wasn't it DEAN~! Who said no match where the finish is the Undertaker's evil brother comes out from underneath the ring to cost him the match can't be 5 stars James Can't be less than 5 stars maybe? 1
Shartnado Posted March 10 Posted March 10 7 hours ago, zendragon said: Can't be less than 5 stars maybe? That's probably more how I could see him seeing the situation, absolutely! He would definitely appreciate the absurdity of such an ending! It CAN be the other way around, yes, but this way it makes a lot more sense. 1
SirSmUgly Posted March 10 Posted March 10 My hot take (which crosses over with the "former wrestlers on color" conversation) is that Tony S., Stevie Ray, and Mark Madden are a top three team on WCW television. I only have Tony/Heenan/Dusty and Ross/Ventura in front of them. I'll also make the further fiery hot argument that if Tony S., Stevie Ray, and Mark Madden had more time to gel in front of a better television show being produced by a more stable company, they would have been legitimately good enough with time that people would think of them all more fondly in those roles. I'm pretty certain this is a take at the sort of level that would get Woody Paige immediately muted on Around the Horn. 1
BobbyWhioux Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/9/2025 at 9:57 AM, The Natural said: My hot take: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker Hell in a Cell at In Your House 18: Badd Blood is the best Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker match. It's a ***** classic better than their other ***** classic at WrestleMania XXV. Who's with me and Brian Fowler? Their first match was their best and it was all downhill from there? I’m fine with that. 1
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