supremebve Posted March 1 Posted March 1 17 hours ago, Technico Support said: It’s so shitty that networks like ESPN have gone in my lifetime from halfway decent sports reporting to just endless phony carny argument shows. Also a distinct lack of Bodyshaping, Kiana’s Flex Appeal, etc. I have no way to prove this, but I'm pretty sure Kiana and Jeanette Lee are responsible for at least 75% of my generation's Asian fetishization. 2
odessasteps Posted March 1 Posted March 1 I wonder who else from that time period would be a candidate? Joan Chen? I would put any Asian anime characters in a separate discussion. 2 1
supremebve Posted March 2 Posted March 2 2 hours ago, odessasteps said: I wonder who else from that time period would be a candidate? Joan Chen? I would put any Asian anime characters in a separate discussion. Not technically Asian, but Tia Carrere. 3 2
zendragon Posted March 2 Posted March 2 Here's an idea after Bart Gunn win Brawl for All work the fight against butterbean and give him the Man's Man gimmick (maybe not the hard hat) blue collar blue jean wearing brawler with a knock out punch. Probably not going to main even any PPVs but a solid upper mid carder for at least a bit 2
J.H. Posted March 2 Posted March 2 12 hours ago, supremebve said: Not technically Asian, but Tia Carrere. Is Filipino not considered Asian? No seriously, I don't know how other Asians view the Philippines and their people. Someone call Jiaoying Summers to clarify for me! James 1
Technico Support Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/2/2025 at 8:15 AM, J.H. said: Is Filipino not considered Asian? No seriously, I don't know how other Asians view the Philippines and their people. Someone call Jiaoying Summers to clarify for me! James I Googled it and the census bureau says so but I guess YMMV. I mean when people in the US use the term "Asian" in conversation, they typically mean East Asian...Japanese/Korean/Chinese. But India and part of Russia are also in Asia. And apparently, reading more about it, it might depend on which Asians your country has more of and apparently, in the UK, when they say "Asian" they mean South Asia (India, Pakistan, etc.). I guess it comes down to whether you want to go with however people speak where you are, or if you'd rather just be technically correct (the best kind of correct). Edited March 3 by Technico Support 2
SirSmUgly Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Of course people from the Phillippines are Asian. Their island is literally part of the continent of Asia, after all. As someone from an area of the country with a lot of people from across the Asian diaspora, it's always been odd to me how a lot of American dudes sort of reduce their love of things Asian to Japan and maybe South Korea. Kiana was a cutie tho. Jeannette Lee, on the other hand, was an attractive woman who looked like a stone cold killer whenever I came across ESPN Billiards. She looked straight out of a Bond movie as the bad guy's attractive henchlady who murders people with a pool cue. 2
J.H. Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) Jeanette Lee? She was dubbed "The Black Widow" as I recall. I've never been good at billiards/pool but if I was channel surfing and she was on ESPN, I would watch her. It sure beat watching reruns of Hazel! James Edited March 3 by J.H. 2
SirSmUgly Posted March 3 Posted March 3 25 minutes ago, J.H. said: Jeanette Lee? She was dubbed "The Black Widow" as I recall. I've never been good at billiards/pool but if I was channel surfing and she was on ESPN, I would watch her. Otcsure beat watching reruns of Hazel! James I was in a bookstore a couple weeks ago and they had her memoir on display. Even on the cover, the picture of her looks like she's going to knock the cue ball through the cover and embed it in your forehead. Something about her was definitely compelling, yeah. I would stop to watch her shoot pool when I was flipping channels as a kid, too.
odessasteps Posted March 3 Posted March 3 She definitely would not be out of place as an evil villainess taking on the Heroic Trio. 1
supremebve Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, SirSmUgly said: Something about her was definitely compelling, yeah. I would stop to watch her shoot pool when I was flipping channels as a kid, too. Jeanette Lee may also be the cause of many a dominatrix visit. It turns out we can trace all fetishes for men between 35 and 50 back to ESPN daytime programming. 6
SirSmUgly Posted March 3 Posted March 3 I don't know about that, but I do find the general trait of "talented + supremely unflappable" to be an attractive one. I'm sure she has something to do with it. ESPN was such a vital part of my childhood. The Patrick/Olbermann SportsCenters. Baseball Tonight. Watching pool or the LPBT late at night (I like a woman who can hit the 1-3 pocket repeatedly too, for that matter). And of course, the AWA was where I first saw the Midnight Rockers (and is also how I knew to ask for their Remco figurines as a kid), which brings me to my next (somewhat lukewarm) take: ESPN should be airing a pro wrestling show. It's as much a part of their early development (which I count as running through the '80s) as anything else. 3
odessasteps Posted March 3 Posted March 3 From us slightly older that would include Australian rules football. And when I first got ESPN, weekday mornings were a business show and sports center reruns/. 1
SirSmUgly Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Early, early ESPN definitely looked a bit more like the Ocho than the people who make jokes about that imaginary channel might realize. 2
zendragon Posted March 3 Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said: I don't know about that, but I do find the general trait of "talented + supremely unflappable" to be an attractive one. I'm sure she has something to do with it. ESPN was such a vital part of my childhood. The Patrick/Olbermann SportsCenters. Baseball Tonight. Watching pool or the LPBT late at night (I like a woman who can hit the 1-3 pocket repeatedly too, for that matter). And of course, the AWA was where I first saw the Midnight Rockers (and is also how I knew to ask for their Remco figurines as a kid), which brings me to my next (somewhat lukewarm) take: ESPN should be airing a pro wrestling show. It's as much a part of their early development (which I count as running through the '80s) as anything else. With ESPN losing various rights I wonder if they would consider trying to get NXT or something seeing as they cover prowrestling on the .com side 1
Technico Support Posted March 3 Posted March 3 37 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said: Early, early ESPN definitely looked a bit more like the Ocho than the people who make jokes about that imaginary channel might realize. Absolutely! They used to run strongman competitions, ffs. I will never forget the sheer horror of some big dude’s knee bending the wrong way while running with a fridge in his back. 1
SirSmUgly Posted March 3 Posted March 3 18 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Absolutely! They used to run strongman competitions, ffs. I will never forget the sheer horror of some big dude’s knee bending the wrong way while running with a fridge in his back. I used to love watching these as a teen. Big Nordic dudes (and occasionally a Polynesian or a dude from the West Indies) shoving around small cars and hucking cinderblocks was a good time!
SirSmUgly Posted March 4 Posted March 4 I didn't know about the Game of Thrones thing. I would guess it was Magnus ver Magnusson since he was basically the John Cena of the whole competition back in the '90s. 1
Raziel Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 minute ago, SirSmUgly said: I didn't know about the Game of Thrones thing. I would guess it was Magnus ver Magnusson since he was basically the John Cena of the whole competition back in the '90s. Nope, Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson. 1
J.H. Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) Man, ESPN had rodeo and the World Series of Ultimate Frisbee!! The 80s were wild! James Edited March 5 by J.H. 1
BloodyChamp Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Bill Kazmaier! ESPN filler TV was the GOAT. I liked the fishing shows the most but there were alot of fun things on.
Curt McGirt Posted March 6 Posted March 6 On 3/1/2025 at 3:46 PM, odessasteps said: I wonder who else from that time period would be a candidate? A little later, but certainly this person had a part Spoiler (Don't worry, that's only spoilered for size)
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted March 7 Posted March 7 (edited) Based on some of the comments on jobber matches on YouTube, ESPN wasn't just a formative channel for only straight men's tastes, thanks to Global. Edited March 7 by RazorbladeKiss87 3
zendragon Posted March 8 Posted March 8 Watching some off these early 90's uploads on The Vault I'm feeling that Jim Neinhart is a better color commentator than Savage or Piper. I feel the later two spend too much energy putting over their own gimmick as opposed to Jim just trying to put over the matches 2
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