Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 27 Posted January 27 20 minutes ago, just drew said: How many American wrestling fans do you think even know what a Craven Cottage is? Sounds like a Horror movie themed B&B... Specifically, an Edgar Allan Poe themed B&B, which would be awesome! 2
Raziel Posted January 27 Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Specifically, an Edgar Allan Poe themed B&B, which would be awesome! How the hell has one of those not popped up in Baltimore yet?
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 27 Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, Raziel said: How the hell has one of those not popped up in Baltimore yet? The closest thing I could find is the Edgar Allan Poe speakeasy, which will be near me in NJ February 6th-8th.
just drew Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Specifically, an Edgar Allan Poe themed B&B, which would be awesome! I was thinking Wes Craven, but that works too. 1
zendragon Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 1/25/2025 at 5:00 PM, Godfrey said: Do you mean "the Pride", Lashley and Street Profits? I did forget they were there because they weren't called the Hurt Business but fair enough, Lashley was let go after that. However, I think MVP and Shelton were gone by WM40 1 - Maybe, because of the Rock and the Anoa'i family regularly appearing for decades, without them I'm fairly sure there wouldn't be that many Pacific Islanders in there today so I take your point 2 - There's also Damien Priest, world champ for half of 2024 3 - HHH being ignorant of street culture and not cool to Swerve doesn't make him racist though. Swerve is a particular talent, he thrives in a place like AEW and not in a heavily structured company like the WWE I agree there is too many generic white dudes on the roster but I think that's because they are underdeveloped too. It could be more a case of not building anyone properly for a long time under Vince and needing to make adjustments now. A company like WWE doesn't turn on a dime When you make the "brand" the star, you end up with very few real stars. Once Cena. Rock and Austin are completely gone who are they going to turn to for star power? 3
twiztor Posted January 27 Posted January 27 12 hours ago, zendragon said: When you make the "brand" the star, you end up with very few real stars. Once Cena. Rock and Austin are completely gone who are they going to turn to for star power? 'who will take over after Hogan?' 'who will take over after Austin and the Rock?' 'who will take over after Cena?' 'who will take over after Roman?' There's always somebody else they'll strap a rocket to. 1
zendragon Posted January 27 Posted January 27 See I really don't see Roman as being at the level of those first four. 4
supremebve Posted January 27 Posted January 27 36 minutes ago, zendragon said: See I really don't see Roman as being at the level of those first four. I don't see Cena as being at the level of the first three. 4
zendragon Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I'd say Cena is a step down from the first three as far as cultural relevance, but I still think he's way more of household name than Roman
odessasteps Posted January 27 Posted January 27 "Roman who? Oh the wrestler get looks like Jason Mamoa." 1 1
SirSmUgly Posted January 27 Posted January 27 14 hours ago, zendragon said: When you make the "brand" the star, you end up with very few real stars. Once Cena. Rock and Austin are completely gone who are they going to turn to for star power? Yes, and the other part being that pro wrestling oddly has less cultural penetration even though I feel like it's more secure than ever as a business concern in the United States. WCW pretty much always felt like it was on the chopping block except for like three or four years in there; this is the first time in the post-territories era where there are two wrestling companies that are pretty much healthy and where the company that's part of a corporate conglomerate is a crucial part of that conglomerate and not an embarrassment to it. 1
Technico Support Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 hours ago, zendragon said: See I really don't see Roman as being at the level of those first four. 1 hour ago, supremebve said: I don't see Cena as being at the level of the first three. So we’re saying each generation of WWE gets its actual wrestlers further from being mainstream stars. 1
odessasteps Posted January 27 Posted January 27 It makes sense as wrestling becomes more of a niche thing with less fans even though they are more rabid. 2
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted January 27 Posted January 27 It's also that what hit us when we were younger gets imprinted on our memories even more, not to mention the longer we live, the further out of touch we become with what mainstream is. 6
SirSmUgly Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said: It's also that what hit us when we were younger gets imprinted on our memories even more, not to mention the longer we live, the further out of touch we become with what mainstream is. Which I am fine with as obviously pop culture was only good a) when I was between the ages of 3 and 25 and b) when it was pop culture introduced to me by my parents that they liked when they were between the ages of 3 and 25. Literally every other aspect of pop culture ever sucked and is bad and is without merit and is not true art unlike the stuff I liked. Captain N: The Game Master is basically on par with Raphael's Cartoons. This is science. Edited January 27 by SirSmUgly 3
Overly Critical Man Posted January 27 Posted January 27 24 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said: It's also that what hit us when we were younger gets imprinted on our memories even more, not to mention the longer we live, the further out of touch we become with what mainstream is. Shut up, I’m totally hip with the newest trends. Anyway, who is Bad Bunny? 1
Ramo2653 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 33 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said: It's also that what hit us when we were younger gets imprinted on our memories even more, not to mention the longer we live, the further out of touch we become with what mainstream is. Yeah, there's a generation that thinks Cena is levels above Hogan/Rock/Austin and the gen after thinks of Roman in that way. I'd argue that Cena is more mainstream than Hogan and Austin and probably on level with Rock since they got into legit acting careers and that's just the men's side in WWE. And Batista is in the mix. Some kids are going to latch onto someone in NXT that we're not thinking of and they're going to think they're the best wrestler ever. 3
SirSmUgly Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Ramo2653 said: Yeah, there's a generation that thinks Cena is levels above Hogan/Rock/Austin and the gen after thinks of Roman in that way. I'd argue that Cena is more mainstream than Hogan and Austin and probably on level with Rock since they got into legit acting careers and that's just the men's side in WWE. And Batista is in the mix. Some kids are going to latch onto someone in NXT that we're not thinking of and they're going to think they're the best wrestler ever. I do love reading posts from that generation of young adults who are in their 20s and talk about Cena the way a lot of fans from my era talk about Bret Hart. Like, he's the obvious GOAT and it's silly to argue that anyone else is even close. 2
odessasteps Posted January 28 Posted January 28 16 minutes ago, Overly Critical Man said: Shut up, I’m totally hip with the newest trends. Anyway, who is Bad Bunny? The new Pitbull.
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 minutes ago, odessasteps said: The new Pitbull. Ridiculously famous pop star that in-the-bubble wrestling fans insist isn't actually a big deal? Checks out. (For context, as of right now, Bad Bunny has 18 songs on the Billboard Hot 100.) 18 minutes ago, Ramo2653 said: Yeah, there's a generation that thinks Cena is levels above Hogan/Rock/Austin and the gen after thinks of Roman in that way. I'd argue that Cena is more mainstream than Hogan and Austin and probably on level with Rock since they got into legit acting careers and that's just the men's side in WWE. And Batista is in the mix. Some kids are going to latch onto someone in NXT that we're not thinking of and they're going to think they're the best wrestler ever. It's the circle of life, and it moves us all! 1
ka-to Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 hours ago, odessasteps said: The new Pitbull. You beat me to it. Ha ha. I'm the generation that thinks that all five aren't at the level of Bruno. 1 1
BobbyWhioux Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Yeah, there's a generation that thinks Cena is levels above Hogan/Rock/Austin and the gen after thinks of Roman in that way. I'd argue that Cena is more mainstream than Hogan and Austin and probably on level with Rock since they got into legit acting careers and that's just the men's side in WWE. And Batista is in the mix. Some kids are going to latch onto someone in NXT that we're not thinking of and they're going to think they're the best wrestler ever. may they choose better than when I permanently attached myself to the Marty Jannetty Revenge Train. 2
zendragon Posted January 28 Posted January 28 10 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Yeah, there's a generation that thinks Cena is levels above Hogan/Rock/Austin and the gen after thinks of Roman in that way. I'd argue that Cena is more mainstream than Hogan and Austin and probably on level with Rock since they got into legit acting careers and that's just the men's side in WWE. And Batista is in the mix. Some kids are going to latch onto someone in NXT that we're not thinking of and they're going to think they're the best wrestler ever. Cena with the acting yes, but I think Hogan and Austin had more mainstream penetration from their wrestling careers
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 hours ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said: Ridiculously famous pop star that in-the-bubble wrestling fans insist isn't actually a big deal? Checks out. (For context, as of right now, Bad Bunny has 18 songs on the Billboard Hot 100.) It's the circle of life, and it moves us all! That shows how crazy it is to determine what is "mainstream" right now. I worked in kitchens in some parts of town where all we played was Bad Bunny and Bad Bunny-adjacent stuff. Right now the kitchen I'm at is in what is considered the more affluent part of town and I was playing a few of his songs and only one person recognized it. They'd much rather have me throw Chappell Roan on. (Fun record but I'm getting tired of it) 1
Cliff Hanger Posted January 28 Posted January 28 20 hours ago, odessasteps said: The new Pitbull. Pitbull 1 or Pitbull 2? (Ducks) 1 2
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