Your wrestling HOT TAKES

[SirSmUgly]

7 minutes ago, twiztor said:

the other weird thing about billed weight is who cares? unless you making it a part of the wrestler's gimmick (i.e. "the 500lb Monster") then who even pays attention to it?

I gotta be honest, I bet kids do.

I can still recite billed heights, weights, and places of birth off of random '90s WWF wrestlers who I loved as a kid. Razor Ramon, 6'7, 287 from Miami, Florida. Bret Hart, 6'1, 235 from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The Undertaker, 6'10 and 1/2, 328 from Death Valley. 

I think stating the size of a wrestler really does add to that larger-than-life feel that the company is going for. 

EDIT: For example, I just saw @Matt D's post and immediately had Howard Finkel's voice in my head: "weighing in at 303 pounds, from Venice Beach, California...Huuuuullllllk HOOOOOgan."

Edited May 9, 2021 by Smelly McUgly

[twiztor]

5 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said:

I gotta be honest, I bet kids do.

I can still recite billed heights, weights, and places of birth off of random '90s WWF wrestlers who I loved as a kid. Razor Ramon, 6'7, 287 from Miami, Florida. Bret Hart, 6'1, 235 from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. The Undertaker, 6'10 and 1/2, 328 from Death Valley. 

I think stating the size of a wrestler really does add to that larger-than-life feel that the company is going for. 

yeah, i can rattle off a bunch too. i'm not suggesting doing away with them. but just like in a Holly/Christian situation, the billed weights don't make sense when compare amongst each other. in nobody's thought process was "230 > 225 so christian is bigger and will beat holly". 

they are arbitrary numbers that have no bearing on storyline. just formulate an equation. cuts out all of the "bill them as real weights. no, no, Strowman needs to be larger than life" bs.

[Technico Support]

16 hours ago, Smelly McUgly said:

 

EDIT: For example, I just saw @Matt D's post and immediately had Howard Finkel's voice in my head: "weighing in at 303 pounds, from Venice Beach, California...Huuuuullllllk HOOOOOgan."

Is this some Mandela Effect shit?  I clearly recall Hogan being billed at 302. 

[tbarrie]

15 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Is this some Mandela Effect shit?  I clearly recall Hogan being billed at 302. 

Pro Wrestling Illustrated definitely listed him at 302. Dusty as well.

[Yo-Yo's Roomie]

I always remember Hogan at 303.

But I remember Bret at 234 and Taker at 327.

Savage was what? 243?

[Shartnado]

32 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

Is this some Mandela Effect shit?  I clearly recall Hogan being billed at 302. 

He WAS indeed billed at 302 until at least WM V, then maybe in '90 they started billing him 303, just around the time he started actually getting smaller. I don't remember if he was still billed 302 against Warrior, but definitely 303 against Slaughter. It's pretty weird. I guess he had gains at some point?

Also to answer Yo Yo's Roomie. I remember Taker at 328, but Savage was billed 243 for at least since Macho King era, 238 before that.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Shartnado
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[Technico Support]

45 minutes ago, tbarrie said:

Pro Wrestling Illustrated definitely listed him at 302. Dusty as well.

 

29 minutes ago, Shartnado said:

He WAS indeed billed at 302 until at least WM V, then maybe in '90 they started billing him 303, just around the time he started actually getting smaller.

 

Thanks, guys.  Glad I didn't switch to a different dimension at some point.   And I absolutely remember when they switched to 303, which was so weird to me.  Probably some crazy Vince bullshit.

[tbarrie]

If you think about it, listing wrestlers at the same weight for every match month after month and year after year was kind of bullshit. Human bodies do fluctuate in mass from day to day.

[John from Cincinnati]

I've been trying to wrap my head around the idea some AEW obsessives have that any criticism of their preferred wrestling product is a result of the critic's mind being warped by years of watching WWE. Just now occurred to me that this rationale is massive projection. People using their own baggage as a cudgel rather than taking their own entertainment on its merits or lack thereof. 

Figured I'd just leave this thought here because it's not interesting enough to write six paragraphs about and start a new thread for. 

Edited May 10, 2021 by John from Cincinnati

[BloodyChamp]

I can’t believe I’m saying this but at 3:36 when Hogan spoke I was a Hogan sympathizer for a second. Then at 5:25 I busted out laughing at Hogan with joy, then anxiety laughed at Piper’s comeback. I know we all loved Piper but him on the mic was sometimes that kind of low rent that we called Col DeBeers in that whole thread. 

Edited May 11, 2021 by BloodyChamp

[Shartnado]

17 hours ago, tbarrie said:

If you think about it, listing wrestlers at the same weight for every match month after month and year after year was kind of bullshit. Human bodies do fluctuate in mass from day to day.

I know this to be true and feel the same way about it. Didn't think anything of it when I was younger, however.

[SirSmUgly]

Here's my hot take: They never should have put that Pillman/Austin gun angle on TV, but it was entertaining as shit. I enjoyed it, fuck it, I admit it. 

[Curt McGirt]

Until they did the corny video feed breakup I thought it could be real. The "security" outside the house took a hell of a whooping. It was like watching a Cops segment. 

[BloodyChamp]

I think everybody enjoyed it lol! At worst on that scale and that scale alone, forgetting the social issue aspect of it, it was an alltime great Wrestlecrap moment. 

[BobbyWhioux]

Part of why height and weight used to be memorable/significant was because it was Howard Finkel’s Voice Of God saying it.

[BobbyWhioux]

You had to know the weights as part of your Fink impression 

[TheVileOne]

I really hate WWE Network on Peacock right now. It's horrendous. I have a premium plan, and I have ads for all the programming. The library has been gutted. 

The organization is terrible. The layout is terrible. The search functions are terrible. Like they have WrestleMania classified as SEASONS like like it's an episodic TV show. They have the wrong image assets up for various old-school events. The navigation features for the shows are terrible too. It's cumbersome and hard to use.

I'd even take NJPW World's rather archaic and dated setup over this. WWE Network subscribers were sold a pack of goods here. There is literally nothing better about this version. Sure, you're paying less money now, but you're paying less money for a gutted archive, less features, AD-SUPPORTED CONTENT FOR PREMIUM MEMBERS, and a slapped together layout.

[DJ Hero Morganti]

Yet another random Morganti hot take.

Modern mainstream wrestling needs a bigger variety of body types. More girth, more BEEF, more sleezey looking people.  More mullets and porn stashes.  

[AxB]

Easy solution: Get out of the mainstream. Plenty of Girthy, Beefy, Sleazy looking mustachioed mulletheads on the indies right now.

[DJ Hero Morganti]

Oh i know that.  I want those girthy beefy sleezey dudes on television.  I want mainstream wrestling to have more variety that's all.  Also it's a hot take. Not a where can i find the stuff in looking for post

[odessasteps]

6 minutes ago, Morganti said:

Oh i know that.  I want those girthy beefy sleezey dudes on television.  I want mainstream wrestling to have more variety that's all.  Also it's a hot take. Not a where can i find the stuff in looking for post

I think its actually the opposite of a hot take, unless you work in Stamford.

[AxB]

If you take Joel Gertner's old "Slim, trim, buff, cut, lean, ripped, chiselled and jeeeeeyacked" deal, and replace it with "Girthy, Beefy, Greasy, Sleazy-looking, Mustachioed Mullet Heeeaaaad", that would be a really good introduction.

[cwoy2j]

On 5/11/2021 at 6:44 PM, TheVileOne said:

I really hate WWE Network on Peacock right now. It's horrendous. I have a premium plan, and I have ads for all the programming. The library has been gutted. 

The organization is terrible. The layout is terrible. The search functions are terrible. Like they have WrestleMania classified as SEASONS like like it's an episodic TV show. They have the wrong image assets up for various old-school events. The navigation features for the shows are terrible too. It's cumbersome and hard to use.

I'd even take NJPW World's rather archaic and dated setup over this. WWE Network subscribers were sold a pack of goods here. There is literally nothing better about this version. Sure, you're paying less money now, but you're paying less money for a gutted archive, less features, AD-SUPPORTED CONTENT FOR PREMIUM MEMBERS, and a slapped together layout.

This is the hot take thread not the obvious truth thread!

[Custos]

7 hours ago, Morganti said:

Yet another random Morganti hot take.

Modern mainstream wrestling needs a bigger variety of body types. More girth, more BEEF, more sleezey looking people.  More mullets and porn stashes.  

So you’re basically asking for 5 Jimmy Del Ray clones to be inserted into each promotion? 
Im on board, but it might be a bit too much for the female demographic to take.

[DJ Hero Morganti]

13 minutes ago, Custos said:

So you’re basically asking for 5 Jimmy Del Ray clones to be inserted into each promotion? 
Im on board, but it might be a bit too much for the female demographic to take.

Yes.