The Natural Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 Andrade Almas vs. Johnny Gargano from NXT TakeOver: Philadelphia 2018 (*****) belongs in the discussion. To me it's still the best match in NXT history. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: That's cool, man, different strokes and that. But as you alluded to, if you're looking to see Andrade in NJPW he may very well have a better shot at that now through AEW than through ROH I find current AEW to be a hard watch and their roster is bloated. I think I'm one of the few on here. I'd like to see the LIJ connections used. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Spontaneous said: I find current AEW to be a hard watch and their roster is bloated. I think I'm one of the few on here. I'd like to see the LIJ connections used. I respectfully disagree on the first point but agree on the second. I would much rather see him do New Japan though not sure if he would join LIJ or do his own thing. I know he has friends in ROH but while this is partly me still being anti-ROH for various reasons I just think it'd be a huge step backwards for him. And while I like Impact I don't think they'd be a good fit for him either. All I know is it really speaks volumes that he is an incredible talent with all that one could ask for in a star and they just didn't care. Heck, he even has a beautiful fiancee who is not only a great but also a Flair and it didn't matter. Hopefully he fares better with wherever else he goes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Maybe I missed it in this thread, but Tony Khan said he was waiting for Zelina Vega/Thea Trinidad's non compete to end. Is some sort of reunion possible? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said: I respectfully disagree on the first point but agree on the second. I would much rather see him do New Japan though not sure if he would join LIJ or do his own thing. I know he has friends in ROH but while this is partly me still being anti-ROH for various reasons I just think it'd be a huge step backwards for him. And while I like Impact I don't think they'd be a good fit for him either. Yeah, I know I'm in the minority on the first point. But I agree with you on the rest. If him not speaking fluent English is such a issue then I don't know why WWE bothers. They want Eddie, not a new Latino star. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Spontaneous said: Yeah, I know I'm in the minority on the first point. But I agree with you on the rest. If him not speaking fluent English is such a issue then I don't know why WWE bothers. They want Eddie, not a new Latino star. I feel like we just kinda relitigated this point with Arn's comments on Sin Cara I/Carastico recently, but you're spot on here. And by the way... did *anyone* give a shit about Andrade's English when he had a super-talented, super-beautiful, bilingual manager right there next to him? Of course they fucked that up too, but that's beside the point... there are ways around the problem that don't involve forcing a guy into English lessons so you can shove him out there with a lame-ass script to get "WHAT?"-ed to death. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I feel like we just kinda relitigated this point with Arn's comments on Sin Cara I/Carastico recently, but you're spot on here. And by the way... did *anyone* give a shit about Andrade's English when he had a super-talented, super-beautiful, bilingual manager right there next to him? Of course they fucked that up too, but that's beside the point... there are ways around the problem that don't involve forcing a guy into English lessons so you can shove him out there with a lame-ass script to get "WHAT?"-ed to death. Your reply came in just as I was about to finish typing so excuse me for repeating the same points but... Based on Arn Anderson ethering poor Mistico aka Sin Cara numero uno, not understanding or not seeing psychology in lucha libre, and constantly using Rey Misterio as the example, it's apparent these guys have NO chance whatsoever. Rey and Eddie are not only once in a generation talents who got to work with other once in a generation talents, but more importantly, they're Americans who happen to also be Mexican. Same with Konnan being Puerto Rican and Cuban American. Also, Eddie had the luxury of being from a family where wrestling talent wasn't in short supply and had already been stars in the U.S. territories. They were able to cross over partly cause they understand the little nuances and the cultural differences. I guess you can call it code switching, but they understood what crowd they were working in front of. Unless you're talking about a L.A. Park where the charisma is undeniable or a Juvi or Super Crazy, that's a tall and unrealistic huddle to jump over and unfair light to view talent in. It would be like asking everyone to be Stone Cold and The Rock. Well, good goddamn luck. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Blue Sam Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 99% of the time with people leaving the WWE, it's guys who've either reached their level (FTR, Harper, Rusev) or even surpassed what should have been their ceiling (Ambrose). A guy like Andrade, who looks like that, has a physical charisma like that and managed to get a potential "best match in company history" out of Johnny Gargano was nowhere near his ceiling. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Spontaneous said: I find current AEW to be a hard watch and their roster is bloated. I think I'm one of the few on here. I'd like to see the LIJ connections used. Bloated is putting it mildly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 My worst fear has come true. Peacock is going to completely annihilate WWE Network. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 That's gotta be fake, right? RIGHT?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I don't get Andrade's appeal, I'm not a fan of his. But to be fair, I didn't watch him in NXT. That being said, I hope both him and Zelina don't make it to AEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: My worst fear has come true. Peacock is going to completely annihilate WWE Network. Apparently this is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, RRR said: Bloated is putting it mildly. I've been seeing this in literally every single thread lately - do people realize that the vast majority of those featured on the Dark shows aren't officially signed? It's a pretty big roster, sure, but it doesn't come close to WCW '97 or WWE today, for example. Plus, if a free agent like this becomes available, I'm sure "cap space" can be found. You really think AEW/Khan would say "Well, we'd love to have you Andrade, but we blew the budget on Colton Gunn and Luther so good luck elsewhere"? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: My worst fear has come true. Peacock is going to completely annihilate WWE Network. Need to take a page from Channel 5, a UK channel used Batman 1960s TV series fight graphics when it showed WCW in the late 1990s as weapons were used. I'm not making this up. Pow! Biff! Edited March 22, 2021 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Spontaneous said: That's gotta be fake, right? RIGHT?! i would hope so but i don't have the app to confirm for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: My worst fear has come true. Peacock is going to completely annihilate WWE Network. SlicedWrestling is a joke/parody account originally made to rip on SliceWrestling who either C&P's others stuff and claims it as his own or just makes stuff up. So yes, it's fake. Edited March 22, 2021 by Raziel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Raziel said: SlicedWrestling is a joke/parody account originally made to rip on SliceWrestling who either C&P's others stuff and claims it as his own or just makes stuff up. So yes, it's fake. i'll take your word on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I've been seeing this in literally every single thread lately - do people realize that the vast majority of those featured on the Dark shows aren't officially signed? It's a pretty big roster, sure, but it doesn't come close to WCW '97 or WWE today, for example. Plus, if a free agent like this becomes available, I'm sure "cap space" can be found. You really think AEW/Khan would say "Well, we'd love to have you Andrade, but we blew the budget on Colton Gunn and Luther so good luck elsewhere"? AEW has a large roster for only one main show, however, they ain't at WCW levels of unsustainable roster bloat. Once they moved to two hour Nitros in May 1996 and then eventually three hours, it was like wrestling potluck. You wanna see The Barbarian vs. Super Calo or Roadblock vs. Jimmy Graffiti or Mongo McMichael vs. Villano V? You got it, buddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Dave is reporting that Andrade doesn't have a no-compete clause 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I haven't seen much WCW. I was not trying to turn this thread into a debate on AEW's roster. Again, I just personally don't enjoy it so I'm not someone to really touch on it. It always appears to me that there are a million people on their shows. I get they aren't long term deals but I tried to watch Dark a could times and was fatigued when it had 13+ matches. It's just not for me. I am curious how soon Andrade turns up somewhere, given COVID restrictions. Not sure if ROH already filmed their 19th Anniversary Show that airs Friday or if he could even appear due to restrictions in place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 There's a 90 day no compete for every wrestler released by WWE. So end of June is the soonest he can appear for another promotion. The only people without 90 day no compete clauses are the ones who let their contract expire. When the contract ends organically you are free to do as you please. When WWE cancels the contract (early release) there is always a 90 day no compete to prevent someone showing up tomorrow when the news is still hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, Raziel said: SlicedWrestling is a joke/parody account originally made to rip on SliceWrestling who either C&P's others stuff and claims it as his own or just makes stuff up. So yes, it's fake. It's not REALLY a fake though, since that clip is directly taken from this: They've been pausing the video on chairshots on their YouTube channel for quite a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, The Green Meanie said: I don't get Andrade's appeal, I'm not a fan of his. But to be fair, I didn't watch him in NXT. That being said, I hope both him and Zelina don't make it to AEW. Well, given you only saw him get grossly misused on the main roster, your opinion is understandable. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I watched him in NXT, and I don't really get the appeal either. His offense is so damn bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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