JonnyLaw Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 I get why this episode feels less than the other episodes, but to me, it also feels like a natural and proper conclusion to the story they’ve built. It’s been about Wanda coping with her grief and loss all along, so the ending basically being her acceptance of who she is and what happened is really the only way it could have ended. It reminds me in a way of Spoiler The Good Place Spoiler finale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 To add to the Dr. Strange tie-in besides the Darkhold: A more sinister version of his theme plays while she's astral projecting in the bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 Q for those of you who watched Agents of Shield: does this look like the same Darkhold as that one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, JonnyLaw said: Q for those of you who watched Agents of Shield: does this look like the same Darkhold as that one? Honestly I can't remember as I haven't seen Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4 since it went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Not in the fucking slightest. Agents of SHIELD: WandaVision: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Then I look forward to Hela knocking over the AoS Darkhold while its being displayed in a museum. Edited March 5, 2021 by JonnyLaw 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Agents of SHIELD had some really good moments, and even a few seasons that were good, but man was it fucking campy as shit. I mean, they literally wrote DARKHOLD on the book in some black metal font or whatever. C'mon. Just one more reason why most of the former Marvel TV shows need to be wiped from existence. (inb4 @The Natural mentions how much he loves Charlie Cox's Daredevil ) Edited March 5, 2021 by Casey 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Casey said: Agents of SHIELD had some really good moments, and even a few seasons that were good, but man was it fucking campy as shit. I mean, they literally wrote DARKHOLD on the book in some black metal font or whatever. C'mon. Just one more reason why most of the former Marvel TV shows need to be wiped from existence. (inb4 @The Natural mentions how much he loves Charlie Cox's Daredevil ) Agents of SHIELD S4 was by far the best season of the show. Loved the Agents of HYDRA pod. I'll always take the opportunity to big up Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock/Daredevil. That's one of the best comic book castings ever with Superman played by Christopher Reeve, Chris Evans as Captain America, Heath Ledger's Joker, Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark/Iron Man and Vincent D'Onofrio as Wilson Fisk/Kingpin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, JonnyLaw said: I get why this episode feels less than the other episodes, but to me, it also feels like a natural and proper conclusion to the story they’ve built. It’s been about Wanda coping with her grief and loss all along, so the ending basically being her acceptance of who she is and what happened is really the only way it could have ended. It reminds me in a way of Hide contents The Good Place Reveal hidden contents finale. I THOUGHT THE SAME THING I really enjoyed the ending and looked at it in the same way. This was the main way for the series to end - with Wanda processing her grief and coming to terms with her loss. Well, except when you're an all-powerful being who can maybe summon them back by using what you learn from the Darkhold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) AoS's Darkhold doesn't count, as I'm pretty sure it's on record that AoS is basically a "What If?" and out of continuity (as was done because Feige threw a shitfit when the AoS runners bitched about the movies not telling them what was going in). For the finale, yeah, Agatha calling out Wanda's more powerful than Strange was neat, now it's whatever she's going to do in Multiverse. Construct Vision unlocking White Vision's memories is that quick path to Vision coming back for real. I'm guessing the Skrull was talking about Fury when she mentioned a "friend of your mother's" to Monica. So that would put Monica squarely in Secret War now, I guess. Edited March 5, 2021 by Raziel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Raziel said: I'm guessing the Skrull was talking about Fury when she mentioned a "friend of your mother's" to Monica. So that would put Monica squarely in Secret War now, I guess. Monica asked where the person is, and the Skrull pointed up - and for those of us that don't remember, Fury is in space with the Skrulls. So yeah, you're probably right. Doesn't Secret Invasion start filming soon, like this year? It's probably the same deal as WandaVision - is one big set-up for a movie, in this case, Captain Marvel 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Liked this callback: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 Captain Marvel 2 is (currently) scheduled for November 2022, and Secret Invasion is in pre-production and is set for sometime in 2022. It seems likely Secret Invasion will be first, but I assumed the friend of her mom’s was Captain Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I don't give a flying fuck about Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Ant-Man 3 or Captain Marvel 2. Fair play to those who do. Ant-Man and the Wasp was so slow going to me and Michelle Pfeiffer deserved better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, JonnyLaw said: Captain Marvel 2 is (currently) scheduled for November 2022, and Secret Invasion is in pre-production and is set for sometime in 2022. It seems likely Secret Invasion will be first, but I assumed the friend of her mom’s was Captain Marvel. Seems like if she was referring to Carol that Monica would nope the fuck outta there, since the implication has been that Monica doesn’t care for Carol. But I guess it could be. I just assume it’s Fury because of the upcoming series and that Far From Home credit scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 46 minutes ago, The Natural said: I don't give a flying fuck about Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Ant-Man 3 or Captain Marvel 2. Fair play to those who do. Ant-Man and the Wasp was so slow going to me and Michelle Pfeiffer deserved better. I understand that, but if Nexus Beings are really a thing, and Kang's showing up in Ant-Man 3, there's gotta be something more to that because Kang being a Nexus Being puts him even more of a mismatch over Scott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Did we ever find out who the person in witness protection that brough the FBI to Westview in the first place was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 No, and it's a weird thread to not tie up, but now it seems like it was just a plot device to get Woo over to Westview, which rolled everything else along (at least as far as drawing Darcy and Monica in, Heywood might've found it on his own.) I can't remember if it was mentioned, but did Agatha show up after figuring out there was some super magical stuff going on, or did Wanda (or rather, Vision) happen to pick the one small town in NJ where a magic stealing ancient Witch lived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 Agatha came running to Westview pretty much as soon as she saw/felt the power from so many spells being cast at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, JonnyLaw said: Then I look forward to Hela knocking over the AoS Darkhold while its being displayed in a museum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Log said: Did we ever find out who the person in witness protection that brough the FBI to Westview in the first place was? Ralph Bohner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Did they tease a Hawkeye cameo there and not even deliver on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said: Did they tease a Hawkeye cameo there and not even deliver on that? I thought the same thing but he said Cliff not Clint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, TheVileOne said: Ralph Bohner? Probably not because Jimmy would have recognized him. Not that it seems important at this point, but I’m thinking it was probably Dottie, as her being in witness protection would explain why she wasn’t on the board when they were IDing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I feel like the series had a natural conclusion and ending. Introducing some of the characters leaks were talking about would've either been too much, wouldn't make sense, or would've been too problematic. Plus, we got a full-on origin/establishing of Scarlet Witch, and she got a proper costume. This at least gives me hope that Moon Knight will have a faithful costume in his series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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