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Cristobal

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Tyson wasn't trying to be a movez guy, though. I don't think he had been trying that for a while even before the injury. Yeah, he's athletic, and can do the flippy-do stuff, but it almost works better just being a guy who looks really good doing simpler stuff. I thought it was kind of an unfortunate comparison for Fandango, since he was in there with a guy who looked MORE graceful then the supposed dancer.

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LooseCannon

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A heel turned Daniel Bryan would actually be fantastic in this spot I think. He could brag about having spent the last 12 months beating both of these guys over and over and not getting any reward or recognition for it because the fans didnt believe in him enough and yadda yadda yadda. "The knee that beat John Cena" would be a death move in that match.

 

HHH puts Daniel Bryan in a handcap world title match against Randy Orton and the Shield.  DB comes out clean-shaven.  HHH orders the Shield to attack Orton and help Bryan win.  Afterwards, HHH admits that all he ever really wanted was for DB to get rid of the beard because nothing should displace Stephanie as the most prominent beard in the WWE Universe.

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Skelemania

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MOVEZ guys without MOVEZ are just...guys.

 

It doesn't really have anything to do with the moves. The point is he was just there, playing second fiddle to the women while the commentators put over Total Divas. He didn't do shit, moves or otherwise. There was nothing memorable that happened whatsoever in that match; it was complete filler & probably only happened to get a few seconds to use as video footage for the E! show to tease drama or some shit anyway. Name-dropping it as a highlight of the evening is ludicrous.

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I am dying at Big Show co-opting Bryan's chant and not giving one fuck.

 

Hilarious.

I keep trying to tell you guys, that is not a Daniel Bryan thing. It's something that the crowd does and Daniel Bryan just happened to be the guy that was doing it with them first.

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mco543

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MOVEZ guys without MOVEZ are just...guys.

 

It doesn't really have anything to do with the moves. The point is he was just there, playing second fiddle to the women while the commentators put over Total Divas. He didn't do shit, moves or otherwise. There was nothing memorable that happened whatsoever in that match; it was complete filler & probably only happened to get a few seconds to use as video footage for the E! show to tease drama or some shit anyway. Name-dropping it as a highlight of the evening is ludicrous.

 

I thought the lone highlight of the match was Fandango's bumping for Tyson.

 

I fully realize that Fandango will probably never ever be World Heavyweight Champion but God dammit he's my World Heavyweight Champion.

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I am dying at Big Show co-opting Bryan's chant and not giving one fuck.Hilarious.

I keep trying to tell you guys, that is not a Daniel Bryan thing. It's something that the crowd does and Daniel Bryan just happened to be the guy that was doing it with them first.
What other wrestler gets Yes chants? What other wrestler does the yes arm raise?Then again Big Show is the main event and Bryan is feuding with midcarders in the show opener. Show should be able to steal Bryan's gimmick.
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Patrick B.

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Here's the thing.

 

Daniel Bryan is little.

 

As his name would indicate, The Big Show is big.

 

Therefore, Show is the better choice to push and he should be allowed to use Bryan's schtick.

 

If you don't get that, then I don't know what part of "you don't understand the business" is unclear.

 

Good day, sirs.

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I am dying at Big Show co-opting Bryan's chant and not giving one fuck.

 

Hilarious.

I keep trying to tell you guys, that is not a Daniel Bryan thing. It's something that the crowd does and Daniel Bryan just happened to be the guy that was doing it with them first.

 

You're right. People have been saying "yes" for centuries now.

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I think they want the Yes chants to be like the what chants, but without asking for it, they won't do it. The ending sucked, it felt like it was re-written several times, and it probably was, and what is VInce's role in all this, Meltzer keeps saying he's coming back this week, and has been wrong every week. It felt odd that Show asked for a title match and not revenge against Triple H. I think they're trying to hold that match off until "Mania  but Show should have wanted revenge. 

An ever expanding Authority group is getting to be like NWO, but they don't have that many babyfaces to square off against so I doubt they'll turn Bryan. 

Anyone notice this is the first show in  like a month that Miz escaped a beatdown? 

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Spontaneous

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The one question I keep asking myself, The Authority figure story aside, why would you promote Langston/Axel on Main Event and have both lose on Raw? Axel is the IC champion, whether or not he is talented enough in anyone's opinion, why is the IC champion losing before his apparent big singles match? Ugh, this whole show felt like it was rewritten constantly.

 

Is Vince ever coming back? I would think the build to Survivor Series is the right time if they are to. I am scared we may be getting WM30 with Cena/Orton, Brock/Taker and Ryback/Goldberg. Do something WWE please!

 

Hey, the ratings for Raw dropped as the night wore on! Bryan & Punk must be the big stars, the ratings fell for the Show-Authority beatdown segment, Big Show must really suck. Can we either agree to adhere rigidly to studying the ratings or to ignore them?

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LooseCannon

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Hey, the ratings for Raw dropped as the night wore on! Bryan & Punk must be the big stars, the ratings fell for the Show-Authority beatdown segment, Big Show must really suck. Can we either agree to adhere rigidly to studying the ratings or to ignore them?

 

How good are you at running regression models?

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I am dying at Big Show co-opting Bryan's chant and not giving one fuck.Hilarious.

I keep trying to tell you guys, that is not a Daniel Bryan thing. It's something that the crowd does and Daniel Bryan just happened to be the guy that was doing it with them first.
What other wrestler gets Yes chants? What other wrestler does the yes arm raise?Then again Big Show is the main event and Bryan is feuding with midcarders in the show opener. Show should be able to steal Bryan's gimmick.

 

I'm just trying to give what I assume is the WWE logic on it.

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DreamBroken

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The one question I keep asking myself, The Authority figure story aside, why would you promote Langston/Axel on Main Event and have both lose on Raw? Axel is the IC champion, whether or not he is talented enough in anyone's opinion, why is the IC champion losing before his apparent big singles match? Ugh, this whole show felt like it was rewritten constantly

 

And then the match doesn't even take place on Main Event. Seems they've done that a few times now, advertise a Main Event match and then not do it.

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Curtis Axel is so dead the second they take the IC title off of him. Without Paul Heyman they might as well give him back the Michael McGillicutty name.

He's not even a guy I'd call a "failed experiment." They never acted like they wanted to get him over. From day one with the HHH stuff, all of the little things they had him do were wrong. They let Hunter hit him and didn't have him fight back. They had him win the match by forfeit but not through any real means of his own. Then they downshifted him almost immediately into the IC picture and never gave him any actual programs, save for maybe the one with Kofi. After that it was all sacrificial lamb for months.I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy so ill-used and fed to the lions. I'm sure I have but nothing's jumping to mind.
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I think Axels gimmick was going to be a young, hungry guy who under the tutelage of Paul Heyman would cheat his way to the top.  Almost immediately after launching the gimmick he was dropped from the main event scene and going over the Kofis of the world clean. It didn't make any sense. He was no longer taking on the world and he was no longer cheating.

 

My guess is someone in creative was behind the Axel character. His first few appearances in high-profile tv matches got poor ratings because no one knew who he was. This was all that needed to determine Axel a failure who should go back to superstars.

 

It reminds me a little of Ryder from a few years back. The guy had a little buzz. Instead of a build, they briefly went all in behind him. There was that Raw in December of 11 where he faced Cena and Henry in one night and had like three other segments. WWE quickly learned that Ryder was not a main event draw. Of course, based off his build and how quickly he went from appearing as an extra in backstage segments to receiving high-profile matches on Raw there was no reason to think he would be. And back to superstars he went...

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