Steventon Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Re; winning streaks - not sure if it counts but I think you can add Aries ending Joe's big ROH title run and being elevated as a top level guy as a good end result. And they played up the story of the cumulative damage and wear and tear Joe had taken over the course of his reign, which is a story someone should really run again in 2021 To add to the barbwire matches, I really liked the Onita vs Funk one for the spectacle of it. Necro vs Whitmer barbwire ring match from the ROH vs CZW fued was pretty great, as was the Homicide vs Corino one. David Starr and Janela had a shockingly good one a couple years ago on one of the Beyond Wrestlemania weekend shows. Wasn't one of the big Lawler vs Mantell matches a barbwire ring match? Maybe the first one ever? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) I don't really include title reigns in streaks. I was thinking more in how undefeated streaks just always seem to founder at the point where it ends. I hate dirty finishes and I think that often happens to protect guys. If you did it right, then why does the guy who just tore through the roster need to be protected? Streaks also need to end up like King of the Ring, a gimmick to nowhere. It tends to be a defining trait when it should be a stat. If your character is "I'm undefeated" then at some point you have nothing. The best win streak I can really think of is Matsunaga in I think it was Zero 1? He ran through the roster only to be stopped by an up and coming Yoshihito Sasaki. That also was a barbed wire no ropes match and I remember it being fairly brutal. Edited February 19, 2021 by Spontaneous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Megumi Kudo had a great Barbed Wire match with Shinobu Kandori that not many people have seen. It's in the Secret Santo 2 thread somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, AxB said: Megumi Kudo had a great Barbed Wire match with Shinobu Kandori that not many people have seen. It's in the Secret Santo 2 thread somewhere. Speaking of Megumi, I find it hilarious but also super fitting AEW made the Revolution main event just some weeks after Megumi Kudo made her return after nearly two and half decades away from the ring to have a "match"* with Shark Tsuchiya. * I put quotations around match because I believe Shark is working on a prosthetic leg and it's not like Shark was exactly a super worker in her heyday. They probably tried their best and used it to rekindle their old feud with the help of Miwa Sato. Apparently, Megumi also used this as an excuse to get a new haircut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAHU Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 It was a "performance" and never promoted as a match since they were not actually going to be doing any moves. The ZERO1 sponsor for the Sumo Hall show that got postponed is a big 90's wrestling fan and wanted to bring in a bunch of retired/semi-retired stars for the show and do a simulation match where they're getting paid and not breaking a retirement vow since it's a performance and not a match. The Kudo performance was an example of how it would look with Kudo already being contracted with ZERO1 so she was not really in the position to say no and there was no doubt if Shark could physically do it, she would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Apparently Konnan is in Hospital with serious Kidney issues. Get well soon Konnan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, BAHU said: It was a "performance" and never promoted as a match since they were not actually going to be doing any moves. Based on how Shark was getting around from the video I saw, that was probably for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 He also has COVID. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ace said: He also has COVID. Sounds like someone my wife would be running dialysis on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 1:18 PM, RIPPA said: I am old enough to remember Dream Team members covering the Reebok logos on their Olympic gear with American Flags so to not piss off Nike And I am old enough to assume you meant Valentine and Beefcake until eventually figuring out you were talking about a basketball team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Fun video. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 It's so weird how goofy Orton is entertaining and yet the rest of the time I don't want to see him at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Spontaneous said: I don't really include title reigns in streaks. I was thinking more in how undefeated streaks just always seem to founder at the point where it ends. I hate dirty finishes and I think that often happens to protect guys. If you did it right, then why does the guy who just tore through the roster need to be protected? Streaks also need to end up like King of the Ring, a gimmick to nowhere. It tends to be a defining trait when it should be a stat. If your character is "I'm undefeated" then at some point you have nothing. The best win streak I can really think of is Matsunaga in I think it was Zero 1? He ran through the roster only to be stopped by an up and coming Yoshihito Sasaki. That also was a barbed wire no ropes match and I remember it being fairly brutal. Seamlessly weaving the simultaneous unbeaten streak and barbed wire match discussions together. Nicely done - championship caliber posting right here. And Stop The Matsunaga was sooooo good. Always love the angle where the heel gets desperate and brings out the maniacal cleaner against the baby faces, but then can’t put the genie back in the bottle. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 More people will see this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, kafkonia said: It's so weird how goofy Orton is entertaining and yet the rest of the time I don't want to see him at all. I find that time has been kind to Orton in that while I don't excuse his past transgressions he seems like he's been a fairly decent guy. I guess maturity can do that to somebody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 On a separate note Kyros is now trying to get the Supreme Court to hear his CTE case that's been shot down everywhere. Good luck with that. https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwe-concussion-lawsuit-being-appealed-us-supreme-court-333601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 The Four Horsewomen collide. Amazing it hasn't happened on the main roster. We've had 3/4 at WrestleMania XXXII with Sasha Banks vs. Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair. Bayley was still in NXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, For Great Justice said: And Stop The Matsunaga was sooooo good. Always love the angle where the heel gets desperate and brings out the maniacal cleaner against the baby faces, but then can’t put the genie back in the bottle. I really want someone to use this story again already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Somewhat wrestling related, looks like NBC, ABC and Fox are all dropping Nielsen’s Live + Same Day TV Ratings as a usable metric. This probably benefits WWE a lot. https://www.thewrap.com/nbc-tv-ratings-live-same-day-stop-abc-fox/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, nofuture said: Somewhat wrestling related, looks like NBC, ABC and Fox are all dropping Nielsen’s Live + Same Day TV Ratings as a usable metric. This probably benefits WWE a lot. https://www.thewrap.com/nbc-tv-ratings-live-same-day-stop-abc-fox/ Good. Now maybe wrestling fans will stop talking about them like it’s the late-90’s. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 50 minutes ago, Eivion said: I really want someone to use this story again already. Well, with the forbidden door open and all, might I suggest Eddie Kingston bringing in Matanza Cueto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Eivion said: I really want someone to use this story again already. Is there a good recap of Stop The Matsunaga anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 When I saw Bo Dallas trending, I figured he had been fired. Nope, just because he is dating Liv Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Wait I thought Bo Dallas was already fired in the COVID purge of 2020. But I think this describes most of us Edited February 19, 2021 by hammerva 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Log said: Good. Now maybe wrestling fans will stop talking about them like it’s the late-90’s. ...Nope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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