Cobra Commander Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The concept of managers license testing reminds me of the angle from Florida where JJ Dillon was supposed to be exclusively managing Ron Bass, but he was using a manager named Gentleman Jim Holliday as a front man to also manage the Zambuie Express/Abdullah the Butcher. Which is my evidence for the theory that JJ Dillon's on-screen persona was a manager very likely to be engaging in various forms of fraud. There's stories about people taking job interviews to get other people hired. But it might hit a little close to home for some indy guys to do a "using somebody else's managerial license" gimmick. You know what gimmick really died off once promotions couldn't be so racist with gimmicks? Native American gimmicks (either real Native Americans or Italians impersonating Native Americans)... I guess the Muhammad Hassan experience means that we can't get Native American heels who talk about how wronged they were by the federal government and how they'll take it out on opposing wrestlers to get retribution. Also, for some reason (probably a really damn valid one), they didn't wanna have Tatanka be an evil casino baron in the 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Managerial partnerships are always fraught with peril. Like H&H International in World Class. Seems likely it more often than not leads to a manager v manager feud, not necessarily with someone turning face either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Having a storyline where a heel manager raided the stables of other heel managers would hit a little close to home if it was done in the mid/late-1980s. Although the Captain Lou/Jimmy Snuka/Buddy Rogers storyline was essentially an embezzlement storyline years before the "Don King spending Mike Tyson's winnings on total bullshit" happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 A Jim Holiday clip. Gordon seemed pleased at the joke about his liquor license. https://youtu.be/Gv_jkPFzHwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: You know what gimmick really died off once promotions couldn't be so racist with gimmicks? Native American gimmicks (either real Native Americans or Italians impersonating Native Americans)... I guess the Muhammad Hassan experience means that we can't get Native American heels who talk about how wronged they were by the federal government and how they'll take it out on opposing wrestlers to get retribution. Well we do have Native Beast Nyla Rose, personally I think we are due for a non stereotypical Native American wrestler coming out to Testament 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: A Jim Holiday clip. Gordon seemed pleased at the joke about his liquor license. https://youtu.be/Gv_jkPFzHwg Another Holiday clip. He looks like a Miami Vice villain who knows a guy that flies cocaine in from the Bahamas. Or he’s evil Ringo Starr. Take your pick. https://youtu.be/HkvKlL79vjY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 23 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: Having a storyline where a heel manager raided the stables of other heel managers would hit a little close to home if it was done in the mid/late-1980s. I can remember something slightly akin to this in the WWF when Freddie Blassie retired and Slick took most of his men with Bobby Heenan and Mr. Fuji getting others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Akbar stole the Samoans from Ernie Ladd in Mid South, i think-in 1982. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 hours ago, The Green Meanie said: I can remember something slightly akin to this in the WWF when Freddie Blassie retired and Slick took most of his men with Bobby Heenan and Mr. Fuji getting others. They had Slick join Blassie and his charges for a few tv tapings before The Hollywood Fashion Plate retired. Slick did sell the contract of Hercules to Heenan on a Saturday Nights Main Event, The Slickster was smart enough to have The Brain pay him cash at a bank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I think I’ve mentioned it here before but there was a Samoans vs Pillman and Z-Man match on WCW Pro I think, that had 3 or 4 very clear politically incorrect chants from the crowd lol! Here’s something I loved - I loved nasty nasty things in wrestling that were done so that they weren’t nasty just to be nasty, or bush league, or...well hell I can’t explain in. There was just something I couldn’t stand about somebody saying “shit” on TV in 1998 vs somebody saying racial slurs or seeing an incident that implied that somebody died in 1989. I suppose it was a combination of innocence and ignorance, which have similar spellings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 The concept of a tag rope was one trope that kind of baffled me. WWF always seemed to have them. I understood that the idea behind it made some sense in supporting the rule of a “legal tag”. That the partner in the corner is only allowed to reach so far from their corner. Otherwise, why not just make tags happen anywhere? After all the potential for the ref missing visual confirmation of a tag late in the match could lead to dramatic high water marks. But of course you could be choking a motherfucker out with it behind the refs back too. Which makes having the tag rope at all really questionable. I think I’ve seen few other feds use the tag rope but never in the same way. Plus plenty that didn’t did just as well as to wonder why anyone would even bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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