The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just watched this. 1:00 for Jimmy Rave's entrance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Jimmy Rave was involved in one of my favorite ROH feuds, The Embassy vs. Generation Next. Their Steel Cage Warfare match is one of my favorite matches in ROH history. Good shout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 In a company where workrate was cheered despite heel/face alignments, Rave drew genuine heel heat to the point of having toilet paper thrown at him. That takes a special kind of talent. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said: In a company where workrate was cheered despite heel/face alignments, Rave drew genuine heel heat to the point of having toilet paper thrown at him. That takes a special kind of talent. Well said. Found this: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: Fuck man. The crown jewel of the Embassy deserved so much better. Precisely my thoughts when I heard this news. Let us remember Jimmy Rave cloaked in royal finery. That's what the Crown Jewel deserved. RIP Edited December 14, 2021 by J.T. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) One of the first matches I watched on RoH. Hard to believe that both Bison Smith and Jimmy Rave are no longer with us. That heel hook, tho. Cabana should've tapped. Edited December 14, 2021 by J.T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: In a company where workrate was cheered despite heel/face alignments, Rave drew genuine heel heat to the point of having toilet paper thrown at him. That takes a special kind of talent. I want to say "Respect Is Earned" was the Manhattan Center show we went to where Rave teamed with Adam Pearce in a four-way. AP came out to "Black Betty" first, to a ton of boos... then "House of the Rising Sun" hit and the crowd absolutely melted down in hatred as Rave came out. Seriously, that reaction was so delicious you could eat it with a spoon... and as you said, it spoke volumes for Rave's ability to smash that barrier. (Pretty sure this was the same match where Pearce responded to the "Repo Man" chants by whipping out a Repo Man mask and working as Repo Man for a couple of minutes to the utter delight of everyone. Still one of the funniest things I've ever seen live in wrestling.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2004-2008 ROH still stands as one of my, if not my favorite run by any company ever so Jimmy Rave was a huge part of that. As someone mentioned, ROH would cheer almost anyone but Rave was THE guy to hate and he embraced it completely. My favourite Rave memories involved The Embassy run when Alex Shelley joined, whenever they teamed together they were low key hilarious in the ring. The Steel Cage Warfare is one of my fondest memories as a ROH fan and the image of Roderick Strong repeatedly backbreaking Rave until he looked like jell-o near the end of that match is embedded in my brain forever. [Nana Voice] JIMMY RAVE! [/Nana Voice] 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 As a not to religious follower of ROH, I could never figure out why the fans hated him as much as they did. Nana had a great line about ROH conspiring against rave as them trying to keep an upstanding African American down (since Jimmy I assume attained ghanan citizenship) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 21 hours ago, Rev Ray said: As a not to religious follower of ROH, I could never figure out why the fans hated him as much as they did. Nana had a great line about ROH conspiring against rave as them trying to keep an upstanding African American down (since Jimmy I assume attained ghanan citizenship) I feel like Rave was the only guy then willing to take a powder, really willing to stall and break out other BS. He had big programs against overwhelming fan favorites like AJ and Punk and I feel like he knew playing up heel tendencies was more important than going out and having the "this is awesome match." And his matches usually were fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Someone uploaded a bunch of previously-unreleased Jimmy Rave matches from an NWA affiliate that Dan Wilson was promoting around 2012. I haven't had a chance to dig into them yet but they're in a youtube playlist here: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) On 12/15/2021 at 5:49 PM, Rev Ray said: As a not to religious follower of ROH, I could never figure out why the fans hated him as much as they did. Nana had a great line about ROH conspiring against rave as them trying to keep an upstanding African American down (since Jimmy I assume attained ghanan citizenship) Initially it was because Nana announced that he'd be revealing who the Crown Jewel of the Embassy was, and it was gonna be a huge surprise. I was at the show where the did the reveal in the middle of the ring and it was Jimmy Rave. And a LOT of folks, myself included,were like " Who?" Or if they did know who he was, it was a disappointment. Edited December 17, 2021 by Johnny Sorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) On 12/15/2021 at 7:49 PM, Rev Ray said: As a not to religious follower of ROH, I could never figure out why the fans hated him as much as they did. I think it was mostly the ritualistic kayfabe that you expected from RoH and ECW smarks. There was a lot of love for Jimmy during his entrances, but you're not supposed to cheer for the heels once the match starts. I'm sure there were a few diehards out there that hated Jimmy's guts though. Once he came through the curtain, he was 100% in character and he earned your scorn. Edited December 17, 2021 by J.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Jimmy played everything up beautifually. from the Crown Jewel, to using the Styles Clash (after TNA pulled AJ during the RF dustup), we loved Rave, but the toilet paper was a cute gimmick, a lot of crowd hate ended up being kayfabe, Rave more than earned his respect in the ring. He was actually a heel you wanted to pay to see get beat up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Mike Penzel, who was Corporal Kirschner in the WWF and Leatherface in Japan, passed away from a heart attack yesterday at age 64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Kirschner making it 15 years after being declared dead by WWE.com is a pretty good run 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 FUCK YEAH~! RIP. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Deathmatch wrestler Markus Crane has died. By all accounts, a real sweetheart of a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 5:09 AM, Johnny Sorrow said: Initially it was because Nana announced that he'd be revealing who the Crown Jewel of the Embassy was, and it was gonna be a huge surprise. I was at the show where the did the reveal in the middle of the ring and it was Jimmy Rave. And a LOT of folks, myself included,were like " Who?" Or if they did know who he was, it was a disappointment. Jimmy Rave had previously explicitly 'lost his spot' in ROH feuding with Generation Next - so he was basically a complete loser there. I don't think the ROH forums were terribly surprised though, people knew Nana was somewhat likely to be overhyping his new guy. People were also upset that he perfected the Styles Clash and renamed it The Rave Clash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) You hear in indies how deathmatch wrestlers are mostly considered the nicest wrestlers in the business. From all accounts Markus was that guy. He had demons that's for sure but even with his craziness you don't hear many bad words about him. Edited December 27, 2021 by hammerva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts