Elsalvajeloco Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 I feel Di Chirico beating anyone notable is a big upset considering Di Chirico's existence for the last two to three years has been the Italian dude who isn't Marvin Vettori. It also didn't help they fight in the same division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 PONZI SCHEME DOWN! Not only did Jiangling Li survive the "all these Chinese fighters suck ass/UFC Macau shows at 5 am" era, but he has become a damn good fighter in the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I kind of wish that that was the 3rd fight in a series, but Condit vs. Brown was pretty damn fun nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Also, this is a valid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 I thought Matt Brown was gonna be done in round 3 because he was sucking wind something fierce after round 1. I think he's fortunate this fight didn't happen back it was originally suppose to happen. Still a damn entertaining fight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Yikes. When Holloway is on, he looks like the fucking terminator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Max Holloway has landed 500 billion strikes on Kattar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Every time I flip to this when the Packers' game is on Commercial it's Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots in the Main Event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Big bitches salvaged the prelims but the main card has delivered big time. I really hope this fight doesn't have serious long term consequences for Kattar. Yikes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 I never thought I would see a day where 50-42 is like a realistic MMA score, but here we are. That's like winning a 12 round boxing match 120-102. And what's even more impressive is Kattar is a hell of a fighter. Holloway is just excellent though. The crazy part is that he may be head and shoulders above BOTH of the guys fighting for the title next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) By Round 2 I was worried about the long term effects on Kattar's brain. By Round 3 I was worried about the bones in Max's hands. Edited January 16, 2021 by John E. Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Earlier this week we were discussing MMA scoring and how the worst score judges give is 10-8. Seriously, I'd argue at least 2 of these rounds should have been 10-7. I don't think I would have given any of the rounds a 10-9. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, supremebve said: Earlier this week we were discussing MMA scoring and how the worst score judges give is 10-8. Seriously, I'd argue at least 2 of these rounds should have been 10-7. I don't think I would have given any of the rounds a 10-9. There was a 15 second period in round 3 where I thought Herb can give the instruction to Kattar to fight back. Then for the next twenty to twenty-five seconds, he does do that but he's not really close to stepping in. I feel like if Kattar didn't have the rep for being super tough, that's a stoppage 9 out of 10 times. After the Spencer Fisher thing this week, you kinda have to worry about guys who have that rep and how it's seriously affecting the referees. Kattar is a much better fighter than what Fisher was during his best years in the UFC, but at the same time, he's up against a fighting machine like Max Holloway and not just a solid journeyman fighter like Sam Stout and other guys of that ilk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Just watched Holloway vs. Kattar. I became an MMA fan in January 2003. That's the most one sided beating I've seen in that time. Holloway contributed another of those on Brian Ortega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) Thank you Dana White for that major non-announcement he didn't even deliver at the start of the show with as promised. What is it with MMA corners refusing to throw in the towel? There is no way that fight in the main should've gone five rounds. Edited January 17, 2021 by TheVileOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 hours ago, supremebve said: Earlier this week we were discussing MMA scoring and how the worst score judges give is 10-8. Seriously, I'd argue at least 2 of these rounds should have been 10-7. I don't think I would have given any of the rounds a 10-9. I was thinking about that Edgar Maynard II conversation about the first round scoring, a minimum 10-8 or even a 10-7 as I watched this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, The Natural said: I was thinking about that Edgar Maynard II conversation about the first round scoring, a minimum 10-8 or even a 10-7 as I watched this. I remember thinking at the time Edgar/Maynard I the first round definitely should've been a 10-7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: What is it with MMA corners refusing to throw in the towel? There is no way that fight in the main should've gone five rounds. Literally what I was thinking. Very casual observer here, but I thought it was clear Kattar could barely stand deep into the fourth and was at points throwing wildly out of instinct and a desire to keep himself in the fight. Pivoted away from being impressed with Holloway to being disappointed nobody was seemingly looking out for Kattar's wellbeing. Like I said, very casual observer. I'm welcome to being corrected on anything. Also: Never purchased an MMA show in my life, but I needed a cigarette after the main of this. I think I'll be seeking out Holloway's next bout no matter what. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Andy in Kansas said: Literally what I was thinking. Very casual observer here, but I thought it was clear Kattar could barely stand deep into the fourth and was at points throwing wildly out of instinct and a desire to keep himself in the fight. Pivoted away from being impressed with Holloway to being disappointed nobody was seemingly looking out for Kattar's wellbeing. Like I said, very casual observer. I'm welcome to being corrected on anything. Also: Never purchased an MMA show in my life, but I needed a cigarette after the main of this. I think I'll be seeking out Holloway's next bout no matter what. I just think there's this warped mentality that if you throw in the towel you're a coward or if you're not willing to basically literally die you're not a true fighter. BJ Penn's corner stopped the fight with GSP after the fourth round at UFC 94, and Penn was not beaten up as badly as Kattar was here. Like I thought there was nothing round with the Penn stoppage at the time. But corner's need to let go of this mentality that there's shame in throwing in the towel. I get in an MMA fight one punch or strike can change the whole complexion of the fight, but Kattar was given more than enough time to try something, and he never did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheVileOne said: Thank you Dana White for that major non-announcement he didn't even deliver at the start of the show with as promised. What is it with MMA corners refusing to throw in the towel? There is no way that fight in the main should've gone five rounds. Really bugs me when fighters aren't protected by their corner and the referee. It's worse when it's your corner as they're supposed to be there for you. Nice seeing you here, @Andy in Kansas. Edited January 17, 2021 by The Natural 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) How did you score that mauling? I went Holloway: 50-43. Two 10-8 rounds (2 and 4) which I nearly gave 10-7 to both of them. The most one sided damaged inflicted MMA fight I've seen. Holloway vs. Ortega and Gaethje vs. Ferguson were bad as well. Edited January 17, 2021 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 And thanks to Matt Brown, we now have a new addition to the long, long list of Pro-Wrestling moves that work in real fights: Raking the forehead along chicken wire ACTUALLY DOES draw blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twiztor Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 prelims were largely fine. nothing terribly interesting happened. but then the main card started. oh, man. three first round (T)KO stoppages. i was pumped. Condit/Brown, while happening a number of years too late, still delivered in spades. Both guys gave it everything they had. and Holloway/Kattar was a beating of epic proportions. It gave me flashbacks to Holloway/Ortega, just one guy landing an ungodly amount of strikes and showcasing his skills like it was an exhibition. i will watch every Holloway fight until he retires. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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