Death From Above Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Deshaun will be traded for the New York Jets. The whole thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Sheldon Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 55 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: ha not if the shorties have their way but time will tell. I just have to say congrats because the Lions won a trade. Did they? Maybe if Goff still has a copy of Football: My Way by Jeff Fisher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Was this trade one first for Stafford with a first and a third to take Goff off their hands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Goff is such an oddball that I don't think we'll know for sure til next year how this will turn out. But if the Lions use their first pick to get a QB that works out and Goff is just a competent bridge, I'd consider that a win for both Stafford and for the Lions. Either way I can't see it as a win for the Rams since now they won't have a first round pick for a millennia and have a QB that is very very good but not a transcendent one that will change the franchise dramatically. Stafford is better than Goff but its not such a huge difference that I think its worth the picks they gave up, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 It all comes down to "if" for the Rams. If Stafford is healthy and improves the offense enough that Aaron Donald and company can carry them to a title, it's worth it. If not, then it's a big overpay. If what I read on Twitter is accurate and the Lions can, if needed, realistically move on from Goff after next year with destroying the cap, then they really only need him as a bridge. Though they could also theoretically trade him right now to yet another team with no penalty if they are going full tear down this year. Maybe someone that loses out on Watson gets desperate, you never know. At any rate, they added ammunition for their rebuild. I still don't trust the coaching hire, but this move inspires some confidence in the front office at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RIPPA Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 There is also a theory that the Lions might try and flip Goff immediately and then they don't have to absorb any sort of dead money hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 We'll trade you Jordan Love for him and the Lions have to pay his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Death From Above said: Deshaun will be traded for the New York Jets. The whole thing. And the Jets would win that trade big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Someone left Madden franchise mode loaded on a GM's computer. That's the only way this insane trade makes any sense. Two 1sts and a 3rd for a QB starting his 13th season that is only slightly better than average? Oh and they threw in a younger version of the exact same slightly better than average QB on top to sweeten the deal? McVay must really hate Goff. He's so disgusted by the sight of him he gave away the farm just so he didn't ever have to talk to him again. Watson's agent has been up all night pricing out small islands knowing his cut of that deal is gonna be like 3x this haul. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 If and when the Watson deal goes down, its going to replace "Herschel Walker" in the trade lexicon. Or did the Ricky Williams deal do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kuetsar said: If and when the Watson deal goes down, its going to replace "Herschel Walker" in the trade lexicon. Or did the Ricky Williams deal do that? Oh no. The Hershel trade was the Hershel trade, Hershel Walker should be in the Dallas Cowboy Ring of Honor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Death From Above Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 But seriously why do paid football experts think Deshaun Watson wants out of a badly run football program nowhere close to contending so he can agree to be traded to... the Jets? The only even halfway conceivable reason to want to go there is because they can draft the Heisman winner at WR, and there's no way they are getting to keep that pick in the deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Who can give Houston what they want, and who can give Watson what he wants are two different questions; the Jets are a great answer to one question, and really who cares about the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Death From Above said: But seriously why do paid football experts think Deshaun Watson wants out of a badly run football program nowhere close to contending so he can agree to be traded to... the Jets? The only even halfway conceivable reason to want to go there is because they can draft the Heisman winner at WR, and there's no way they are getting to keep that pick in the deal. Yea that's the part I dunno if people are thinking through. Not only are the Jets not good now, but the Jets would be even worse as they stand now if they have to give up picks and defensive players. That's a trade you are excited about if a team is just that one key piece away from being a SB team. The Jets are about sixteen steps from being a SB team. Yea, Watson would help but it wouldn't help much if they give up lots of picks and quality players in the process. The idea of him wanting to go there is hard to figure out so I refuse to believe its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, DangerMark said: Who can give Houston what they want, and who can give Watson what he wants are two different questions; the Jets are a great answer to one question, and really who cares about the other? Watson has the No Trade clause, so the second question is arguably just as important as the first question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Oh, to be sure, but that post was in particular reply to my esteemed colleague who was asking about the molten takes regarding the Jets. I wouldn't want to be traded to the Jets either, and I don't think that trading the Everything to get Watson is going to turn them into contenders, which seems to be what Watson wants, but who wants to read measured takes like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 It sounds like Watson can direct this move similar in a way to recent NBA stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 The first number 1 pick was for Stafford, the rest were for Detroit to take Goff's contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Wow...the Lions made off pretty great in the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Apparently what tipped the trade to the Rams was the inclusion of the second 1st Round pick as until them Washington had made the best offer (though it is unknown exactly what the offer was) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 The big story making the rounds today is that New England were in big on Stafford but Stafford nixed going there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Yup, reportedly New England was the only place he said he wouldn't go. I'm guessing that has a lot to do with them bringing Patricia back. Anyway, here's the list of longest draughts without a first round pick in nfl history. Washington, 1969-1979 (11 drafts) Washington, 1984-1990 (seven drafts) Rams, 2017-2023? (seven drafts, potentially) Eagles, 1974-78 (five drafts) Eagles, 1962-65 (four drafts) Raiders 1976-79 (four drafts) Vikings 1989-1992 (four drafts) (Yes, I mostly posted that so @RIPPAcan laugh at the Football Team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 I will say that on paper it is amusing to mock teams but every year is different Like for Washington - in 1976, they traded the #1 for Theismann so clearly they weren't going to complain And some of their #1 picks were Heath Shuler and Michael Westbrook so they might have been better off NOT having them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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