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We're dooming, but WWE's press release says:

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Peacock will launch WWE Network on March 18, beginning the roll-out of more than 17,000 hours of new, original, and library WWE Network programming on demand and on a 24/7 channel, including:

WWE Network archives, including every WWE, WCW and ECW pay-per-view event in history;

 

It looks like the Archives are coming over too.  

 

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2 minutes ago, Infinit said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the surface, isn't paying $9.99 for the Network (with its archives) and commercial free Peacock a great value? 

Correct - basically if you were already paying for the Network for the same price you will continue to get the Network PLUS adding the ad-free Peacock experience.

Now as I have already cynically started to point out - it depends on exactly what you use the Network for (and if there would be anything on Peacock you would watch)

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1 minute ago, Raziel said:

Yeah, if it's the Network, plus Peacock, it's insane to be mad about it.

Aww... it's like you forgot all the people who raged at that Disney+ package because "I DON'T CARE ABOUT SPORTS!!!!"

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5 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

Aww... it's like you forgot all the people who raged at that Disney+ package because "I DON'T CARE ABOUT SPORTS!!!!"

I always forget the people that rage about shit that makes no sense to be mad about.

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3 hours ago, nofuture said:

1.2 million subscribers at $9.99 a month is around $144 million a year, so they're getting at little over $50 million a year.

It will be even more:

  • of that $144 million a sizable amount had go their current streaming service provider
  • they will save money in accounting or whatever (probably much less relevant then the point above)
  • they will mostly freeze and investments on their back- and frontend (i.e. we international users are getting fucked twofold, we will pay more to get a worse product)
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I've been busy with work today, but is this the gist of the deal?

  • Separate WWE Network app is dead.
  • All WWE Network content is being moved over to Peacock and it will be active in March.
  • For the same price as what the Network cost you now get that and all of Peacock's content without ads.

If that's the case then that doesn't sound bad. I stopped subscribing to the Network awhile ago, If I were still a subscriber then I think my main concern would be that the WWE Network stuff works better than the platform they moved to.

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@Craig HYeah, pretty much. There's some debate over if all of the content on the Network is getting moved over, but like someone else said - I doubt they're paying $1b for limited content.

Also, this might mean either something, or just an error in phrasing, but...

 

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2 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

You would think the stock would go up but since the stock market is bullshit who the fuck knows

I mean the stock is down 2% today alone

Maybe the market is concerned this is a precursor to Vince selling?

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1 minute ago, Craig H said:

I've been busy with work today, but is this the gist of the deal?

  • Separate WWE Network app is dead.
  • All WWE Network content is being moved over to Peacock and it will be active in March.
  • For the same price as what the Network cost you now get that and all of Peacock's content without ads.

If that's the case then that doesn't sound bad. I stopped subscribing to the Network awhile ago, If I were still a subscriber then I think my main concern would be that the WWE Network stuff works better than the platform they moved to.

To answer - Yes (if you live in the US), Yes (in theory), Yes

Now the last part - we are all assuming they will starting using whoever Peacock is using which means not Endeavour which by default should mean the platform would get better. Again - YMMV depending on your thoughts of the Peacock app and what device you are using it on

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The most interesting thing to me about the Observer show over the weekend where Dave talked about the NBC Sports deal wasn't "NHL to USA and what that means for NXT."  It was his general explanation of how NBCUniversal has done away with individual networks managing themselves, instead opting for centralized management.  This means there's no more "USA management" team only concerned with keeping USA looking good.  So not only is there less drive to keep NXT on Wednesdays to make their investment look strong by driving AEW's ratings down, but, more importantly, I feel like WWE is no longer the powerful big fish in USA's small pond.  Now they're just one program in all of NBCUniversal's portfolio.  Maybe this hurts their negotiating power when it's time to re-up. 

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I can't find a specific company, but a Variety article notes that the people who designed the infrastructure/technology of the Now TV streaming service for Sky in the UK are the same ones who did Peacock. It sounds like it's an in-house thing now, and not a company from the outside.

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8 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

The most interesting thing to me about the Observer show over the weekend where Dave talked about the NBC Sports deal wasn't "NHL to USA and what that means for NXT."  It was his general explanation of how NBCUniversal has done away with individual networks managing themselves, instead opting for centralized management.  This means there's no more "USA management" team only concerned with keeping USA looking good.  So not only is there less drive to keep NXT on Wednesdays to make their investment look strong by driving AEW's ratings down, but, more importantly, I feel like WWE is no longer the powerful big fish in USA's small pond.  Now they're just one program in all of NBCUniversal's portfolio.  Maybe this hurts their negotiating power when it's time to re-up. 

I don't know, with this deal NBCU has 2 billion invested in WWE for the next 5 or so years.  That's a pretty serious commitment.

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