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Oh come on. If second or third generation stars couldn't get shots at wrestling simply because of something their dad or granddad did then a lot of wrestlers wouldn't be wrestling right now.

 

Yes the name Benoit has an obvious negative context. But you know what, I'm all for the kid wrestling as David Benoit. He should be allowed to blossum and then be judged on his merits. Not what his crazed dad did one weekend in a haze of pills, booze, and depression. If he can become a good wrestler and reclaim his family name that would be one hell of a redemption story. Other sports would kill (no pun intended) for that sort of thing.

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Oh come on. If second or third generation stars couldn't get shots at wrestling simply because of something their dad or granddad did then a lot of wrestlers wouldn't be wrestling right now.

 

Yes the name Benoit has an obvious negative context. But you know what, I'm all for the kid wrestling as David Benoit. He should be allowed to blossum and then be judged on his merits. Not what his crazed dad did one weekend in a haze of pills, booze, and depression. If he can become a good wrestler and reclaim his family name that would be one hell of a redemption story. Other sports would kill (no pun intended) for that sort of thing.

You don't know much about Chris Benoit, do you?

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I dont think the WWE signing him would result in Phil Mushnicks of the world writing about it.

You would have Deadspin and Grantland and Real Sports discussing, which would lead to the Nancy graces and the View discussing it.

I doubt Vince and/or Linda want that kind of bad press.

Its not like hiring Vicki or Shaul Guerrero.

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It wouldn't be a "complaint", it would be news.

WWE Hires Son of Former Wrestler, Murderer is a headline, and it's one that brings the Benoit story back front and center, and maybe prompts the discussion of just how much responsibility does WWE, both as Benoit's employer at the time and as the face of pro wrestling in this country, bear?

WWE Doesn't Hire Son of Former Wrestler, Murderer is not a headline, and garners no discussions outside of places like this.

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But we know how this will work. The media will pick it up and then drop it after a couple of days, because there is nothing else to the story, except that they hired the son of Chris Benoit. And would this really be headline news? 

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I don't see it ever being a story one way or the other. If they hired him, it would never be acknowledged at all. It might be a mainstream news story for like two days or so but nothing that would drudge back up the scandal.

 

On another note, I watched the last few JBL and Cole Shows (with Renee Young). Pretty funny stuff. I find it hilarious that basically for as much as they push the online stuff on TV, it exists in a completely different universe from the TV shows.

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Would people complain loudly if WWE didn't hire David?

 

Lots of wrestlers don't get signed by WWE. In fact, the overwhelming majority don't.   

 

What people don't seem to get here: A WWE contract is not a God-given right. Tons of guys don't get signed through no fault of their own. Maybe they're too short. Maybe Vince doesn't think they have charisma. Maybe they don't look like bodybuilders. Maybe a female wrestler isn't seen as hot enough.

 

David's reason might be different from most, but still.

 

Yeah, its not his fault that his wrestling career is tainted forever because of what his old man did. But it's not WWE's either.

Pretty sure it is, especially the way WWE acts about Benoit.

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Oh come on. If second or third generation stars couldn't get shots at wrestling simply because of something their dad or granddad did then a lot of wrestlers wouldn't be wrestling right now.

 

Yes the name Benoit has an obvious negative context. But you know what, I'm all for the kid wrestling as David Benoit. He should be allowed to blossum and then be judged on his merits. Not what his crazed dad did one weekend in a haze of pills, booze, and depression. If he can become a good wrestler and reclaim his family name that would be one hell of a redemption story. Other sports would kill (no pun intended) for that sort of thing.

You don't know much about Chris Benoit, do you?

 

 

I know enough. People are acting like that somehow if David Benoit were signed (which lets be honest he almost certainly wouldn't be) that it would somehow be glorifying what his father did. People are also over estimating the reaction of the media.

 

So Phil Muschnick would write a column about it. Big deal. I'm not even sure the New York Post knows he still works for them. He might get an interview on Piers Morgan or something out of it, but no one else in the media would really care. The WWE has done a pretty good job scrubbing Benoit from things. Only us old wrestling fans will even know who the hell he is in another five or even ten years if David Benoit even makes it that far along.

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Oh come on. If second or third generation stars couldn't get shots at wrestling simply because of something their dad or granddad did then a lot of wrestlers wouldn't be wrestling right now.

 

Yes the name Benoit has an obvious negative context. But you know what, I'm all for the kid wrestling as David Benoit. He should be allowed to blossum and then be judged on his merits. Not what his crazed dad did one weekend in a haze of pills, booze, and depression. If he can become a good wrestler and reclaim his family name that would be one hell of a redemption story. Other sports would kill (no pun intended) for that sort of thing.

You don't know much about Chris Benoit, do you?

 

 

I know enough. .

 

No.

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People aren't saying it would glorify anything. People are saying that a company that still pretends Chris Benoit never existed for fear of negative association is very, very unlikely to make a signing that will allow even a 24-48 hour news cycle that puts "former WWE star" and "double murder-suicide" in the same sound bite. They're the number one company in the world and have got more guys than they do roster spots at any given time anyway - it's not like they're starving for either media attention or warm bodies (bad phrasing, I know). Now, TNA, on the other hand, would welcome the attention...

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I was mainly just taking the piss (b/c this is a dumb discussion, IMO) because in 5 or 6 years, I would be willing to bet money that David Benoit will be in WWE's developmental system, albeit under a different, shittier name. Sure, a skanky website like TMZ would probably latch onto the story, but after a day, it'd be forgotten. Because he's not going to debut with the Benoit name, and I guarantee they won't directly reference him being related to Chris, if at all. It's been almost 7 years, and they're slowly starting to put him back into their history, just not advertising him as an integral part of it. Who's to say in another 7 years that circumstances will change and he'll be quietly signed to a deal? I don't think any of us have any information that the other doesn't, so we can't really go on and on talking about how we know for a fact WWE will or won't sign David.

 

Point being - we need to talk more about JoJo in that match on RAW, guys. DA FUTURE.

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I'd like to see him given a Sherlock Holmes gimmick as he attempts to wander backstage at WWE events and solve the Curious Case of the Benoit Murders. Instead of Asian mist, he could blind people with smoke coming out his pipe, and I know I'd mark for a loaded deerstalker shot.

 

Bring in some guy as his Watson too.

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If there was a tournament pitting all wrestlers who wrestled in bare feet against each other, who would emerge victorious?

As an aside, thinking about this has made realize I want to see a Necro Butcher v. Kamala match, and also it would have been awesome if Gary Hart had managed Necro in Texas in the 80s.

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Why would WWE want to sign him, assuming they weren't going to acknowledge his dad in any way?

 

OK, he's a decent height, but so are a lot of people. We don't know if he's a good wrestler and he doesn't have the look Vince tends to like.

 

Unless the guy is the most amazing wrestler ever and has Dwayne Johnson-levels of charisma, I'm not sure why it would be worth the hassle to sign him.

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I wasn't aware you could read the future. Who knows what kind of wrestler David Benoit will be in a few years or longer? Who are you to say they wouldn't sign him because of his last name and a man he apparently didn't have much to do with to start? This is all kind of presumptuous, that's been my point this entire time.

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