HumanChessgame Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Does the WWE do streaming PPVs? They could offer that with a lower price but given how crap the streaming PPV preshows are the quality and uptime would be dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNosanchuk Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 It was CM Punk day on the WTF podcast. No real new information for long time fans, but I thought he came off well. It's been interesting and great to hear wrestlers on podcasts with people/hosts who aren't "wrestling people." Sure wrestlers have done radio interviews for years, but those never went into the depths that podcasts can do. I've enjoyed Marc Maron's conversations and interviews with wrestlers. I know Colt Cabana was on (Didn't they do an episode of each other's podcast?) and think Foley was on too, he's been on so many. It was fun hearing the couple Adam Pierce and Chris Masters stories he told on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Honda Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I anticipate the "country" theme for RAW tonight to be excruciatingly embarrassing & stereotypically insulting. I have no idea who this is supposed to appeal to in 2013, with WWE being a worldwide company that is publicly traded. I really hope that Punk and Bryan are in the main event tonight so when the inevitably terrible ratings come out, we get to hear about how this was a conspiracy by HHH to prove Bryan and Punk aren't draws. A lightbulb just went on over HHH's head. For those of you in Kentucky, a light bulb is like a tiny sun, enclosed in glass. ...I'll show myself out. Sorcery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimoDANK Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Fun fact; I went to High School with CM Punk. He graduated a year before me. DM if you'd like my autograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dokdoyle Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 You might, but would more people REALLY pay whatever lowered price for the PPVs if they're already getting them for free? Not everybody. But I do believe there are a lot of people out there who download music (or in this case, wrestling) for free who would pay a reasonable fee. Now what "reasonable" is could very much be up for debate. I might pay $30 for a B level PPV. The trick is to find that price point that people are willing to pay where the lower prices balance out with the number of people ordering. But getting back to the whole BOGO or whatever; I thought for a while WWE could try a "season pass" type of thing where for, let's say $600, you get every PPV from 'Mania until Elimination Chamber the following year. That's a nice discount and would encourage more people to watch more PPVs to get their moneys worth. More eyes on stuffing instead of potatoes = more money long term. IN Canada for a couple of years, you could do a package deal for the Rumble, The Feb PPV and Wrestlemania for a discounted price, but it's been a few years since I saw something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 How much of a discount would make you willing to buy Summerslam six months in advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I bet they would charge close to if not the same price for digital stream than ppv. Similar to how comic book companies charge the same for digital issues as for print issues: not wanting to piss odd their business partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I believe they do stream via various devices and it does cost the exact same as regular PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 If for some reason Cena actually was gone for six months with no hope of a miracle recovery, I'd like to see how screwed up it gets by week 2. Because regardless of what you believe is the reason for their problems, they have problems and they will continue to get worse. I do not care what happens in most of these feuds, titles means nothing, the matches mean nothing and in an hour will be a "country-themed" Raw. Given the usual level of humor I expect from WWE I can expect my DVR to be on FF most of the night. The rumor is Road Dogg will perform. Whoopee. I do not care and I will not waste my time and my money on this garbage. I expect for WM30 right now, to do the indie powers explode match and Cena-Orton. Really do not want to shuck over $70 for that right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The rumor is Road Dogg will perform. Whoopee. I do not care and I will not waste my time and my money on this garbage. How can you not enjoy a live performance of "With My Baby Tonight" by The Real Double J? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 TNA will invade led by Jeff Jarrett, and TNA will be packaged as a county magic-based wrestling stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooker Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think the CD comparison misses an important point. With the rise of the digital age, there has been a significant divide between two types of mediums: pre-produced and live entertainment. Pre-produced entertainment (like CDs) has taken a massive hit and, in many areas, has gone away (CDs are holding onto the edge of the cliff with one finger at this point). Live entertainment (sports, concerts) has done fine. A major component of a WWE (or wrestling in general) PPV is that it is a live event where important story events happen. I distinctly remember the promise of important-things-will-happen at each PPV in the Attitude Era being fulfilled, and I happily watched each one live. Nothing important happens at WWE PPVs these days. Orton cashing in on Bryan with Trips turning heel is the most significant thing to happen lately, and that was four shows ago. Just going by that timeframe to now, that puts it at a 25% chance of anything significant happening (where I define significant as something happening in the storylines with more impact and consequences than what happens on any given RAW). As for what price point I would pay for PPVs, it certainly isn't $50-60. I could go to a major band's concert in person for that money every month instead. I could get great seats six times a year for that much. I could watch every live indy wrestling event in my city for that price. It's just an absurdly high price for the product they're putting out. I would do $30 if I were splitting it with a friend or $20 if I were watching alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 TNA will invade led by Jeff Jarrett, and TNA will be packaged as a county magic-based wrestling stable As long as they get clean wins over Bryan and Punk, that could be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Announced for Survivor Series is a 5 on 5 of the Shield & Real Americans vs Rhodes Brothers, Usos, and a mystery partner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 RUH KI SHI RUH KI SHI RUK KI SHI Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Isss gonn be tuh bulladuhwoods, if youu weeeeeeeeeelllll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgergabe Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I liked the idea of them putting the PPVs on the network, and charging $20 a month for the network. I would definitely pay $20 a month for that and whatever else they put on the network. I think they could get close to 10% of the RAW audience to pay for the network this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 TNA will invade led by Jeff Jarrett, and TNA will be packaged as a county magic-based wrestling stable I don't know what country magic is, but I am 100% behind it if we get Jeff Jarrett as some sort of redneck Papa Shango. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Harms Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I should point out I'm from England and PPVs during the attitude era were all on sky sports. I begrudge paying for PPVs to start with, and most of the events this year I wouldn't have paid a penny for because it's just not inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 TNA will invade led by Jeff Jarrett, and TNA will be packaged as a county magic-based wrestling stable I don't know what country magic is, but I am 100% behind it if we get Jeff Jarrett as some sort of redneck Papa Shango. it will involve Spellbinder though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 My two cents: PPV is a dead technology. Wrestlemania is an exception because it has the advantage of the 30 year history of being an "event", like the Super Bowl or Final Four, so it will always have an audience. The death of PPV is a direct result of the availabilty of high speed internet and streaming sites. Everyone has pretty much summed up all the reasons why. But to expend the area of discussion, people don't have the same viewing/buying habits as they did 10 years ago. Because of DVR/DVD/Netflix, people now binge watch episodic tv, and networks/media outlets pay top dollar for live events that draw viewers. The same thing that has happened (and is still happening) to TNA's PPV business will happen to WWE, it will just take longer because their business is bigger. People already often mention how it feels like a ripoff when PPV matches pop up on Raw the week or two after - that isn't going to change. Fewer and fewer people will buy PPV, and eventually it will become cost prohibitive for WWE to produce them, and they will stop. Look at it this way: if NBC Universal is willing to pay WWE $1M each week to produce Raw, at what point will WWE stop pumping their own money into producing a PPV on their own dime? What will end up happening is that when WWE's tv rights pop up for negotiation again, they will leverage the ratings that Raw has for a third tier cable network under that media conglomerate's umbrella. For example, a timeslot for Raw on a major cable network (USA, TNT, FS1, etc) and the "WWE Network" will be a part of that company's cable/satelite package. This is what has happened with college sports, the EPL, MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, etc., and the same will happen with WWE. The biggest hinderance will be if they rely on the idea they are "episodic television" or an "action adventure soap opera"... because networks will shy away from that because they can't package the programming in an effective way to suit customer needs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The In Your House's were $15-$20 for a 2 hour show, and to this day, some of those shows are still among the lowest buyrates the company ever had. Just because you're charging $20 for a $50 show, doesn't guarantee that 2 and a half times the people are going to now suddenly buy it. If anything, you're risking people not even buying those shows because they know the important stuff will be saved for the more expensive shows. Are you suggesting getting rid of the B-level PPVs and keeping maybe 5 to 6 big event PPV names? I'm down (yeah, yeah...won't happen but I'm down). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 They could always do an annual/semi-annual Clash-type free TV show. Doesn't have to be SNME, long as they build it right... unfortunately I don't know if it would sustain an audience that is used to that quality on a weekly basis these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think people should just give up on the idea of non-PPV Clash-style events. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I know...I know...No Raw talk, but, hey, a musical act, watch me join the rest of the country in changing the channel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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