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As a side note, I think the concept of Kerwin White is actually a fascinating one for a character, but not with Chavo, and definitely not in WWE, my God. 

But "LOOK AT THIS MEXICAN ACT LIKE A WHITE GUY" is about as far as that character would ever be developed in WWE. 

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Wrestler pretending to be of a different ethnicity than he actually is (and it's obvious) gimmicks peaked with J T Smith thinking he was Italian.

Wrestler pretending to have a different ethnicity and nobody acknowledges it's fake, that's too old school now. Outdated and offensive, innit?

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39 minutes ago, AxB said:

Wrestler pretending to be of a different ethnicity than he actually is (and it's obvious) gimmicks peaked with J T Smith thinking he was Italian.

Wrestler pretending to have a different ethnicity and nobody acknowledges it's fake, that's too old school now. Outdated and offensive, innit?

J.T. Smith was doing it as a way to try to fit in with the FBI, but that was (surprisingly, for ECW) handled alright. A black dude acting like a paisan is funny, and I don't recall too much fuckery on commentary or in promos about it.

I think there's an interesting character there if you try to do it in a less jokey way, kind of in the mold of a Muhammad Hassan-type character that challenges the audience on their notions of race or ethnicity, but WWE couldn't do it...just look at how that Hassan stuff ended.

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7 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said:

J.T. Smith was doing it as a way to try to fit in with the FBI, but that was (surprisingly, for ECW) handled alright. A black dude acting like a paisan is funny, and I don't recall too much fuckery on commentary or in promos about it.

I think there's an interesting character there if you try to do it in a less jokey way, kind of in the mold of a Muhammad Hassan-type character that challenges the audience on their notions of race or ethnicity, but WWE couldn't do it...just look at how that Hassan stuff ended.

I thought J T Smith was doing it before the FBI, and the FBI was a way of putting other wrestlers (who in some cases were also obviously not Italian) into his gimmick?

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10 minutes ago, AxB said:

I thought J T Smith was doing it before the FBI, and the FBI was a way of putting other wrestlers (who in some cases were also obviously not Italian) into his gimmick?

You could be right - I haven't seen that stuff in ages. I am probably remembering wrong.

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I think it was something that looked like a serious injury, like he fell on his head or something? 

When you think about it ECW actually had some kinda charmingly innocent comedy gimmicks for such a vulgar promotion (and audience). The FBI, the BWO, and the early Dudleys had a goofy and fairly clean sense of humor about them. I mean we know how the Dudleys ended up and the Meanie ended up with a porn star, but still. 

EDIT: Also, Mikey. And when Cactus really went mental after the anti-hardcore stuff. 

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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

Fuck, his face! 😬

(And of course, the as-always sympathetic mutants with "You fucked up" and "You fat fuck")

I am sure there are a few good people from Philly, but most of them are like this. They boo Santa, they boo their own home team, they are blood thirsty to the core. 

 

Play online poker against people from Philly and they will trash talk and heckle you all game long. Then when you lose a hand (that they weren't in)  or get eliminated (not by them) they laugh and celebrate as if they just hit the Publisher's Clearing House.  Yeah I hate Philly. 

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I have been at wrestling cards in at least 11 states and 3 countries.  In my experience, "mutant" is an apt descriptor for Philly crowds. They are vicious, ugly (inside & out) and unrelenting. That said, they are passionate, loyal and genuine. I love going to shows in thee Hostile City.

- RAF

p.s. - off the top of my bean, Florida crowds were quite racist, NY's are demanding (discerning and privileged), Wisconsin=drunk.

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30 minutes ago, BobbyWhioux said:

character is [nominally] Jamacian, even though he's from Ghana.

They have acknowledged him coming from Ghana for years now. They even occasionally joke about how he was a fake Jamaican. 

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