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37 minutes ago, D.Z said:

Zelina Vega was escorted out of the building,  the third party policy will be strictly enforced.

So basically she got fired and escorted out like it would happen anywhere else.

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On 11/17/2020 at 9:27 AM, Eoae said:

Speaking of Dave, I started following him again on Twitter last Friday and already regret it.  I have no idea how he gets his work done.  He responds to most everyone who trolls him and usually out-trolls his trolls (which of course provokes more troll responses).

This is at least the fourth or fifth time I've followed him on Twitter and I never last long.  I really hope he's doing a character on social media because he comes off as a condescending ass.  I'm guessing he is doing a wacky character because he seems far less noxious in the Observer, podcasts, etc.

You'll probably be un-following him again pretty soon. The I-told-you-so's and demands for apologies have already begun on this, so he's about to go on one.

 

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Was listening to Rico Suave and Dennis Rivera on a separate podcast. Rico told a story from a personal experience of his with Abdullah the Butcher. Abdullah was working some dates in Puerto Rico and he asked Rico for some photos of his to send to bookers in Japan to try and get him booked over there. Rico gave them to him, but didn't make much of it. The following Monday morning Rico gets a call from Atlanta and it's Abdullah, but Rico thinks it's a prank call and he hangs up on him. He receives another call from Atlanta and again he hangs up. Then Carlos calls Rico and tells him to call Abdullah back at the number that was calling him from Atlanta that he kept hanging up on. Rico calls Abdullah back and Abdullah tells him Mad Man Pondo was scheduled to do a tour of Big Japan along with him, but he had to cancel the tour and Abdullah had suggested Rico as a replacement and that he needed to send his passport express mail so Abdullah could have that same afternoon to get the paperwork started with the Big Japan office. Abdullah also told Rico to go buy a plane ticket to Japan and that the office would reimburse him for it once they arrived in Japan. Rico calls Carlos back and tells him about the offer and Carlos directs him to a traveling agency in Puerto Rico. Rico arrives at the traveling agency and the agent tells him it's $1,982 for a two way plane ticket. Rico leaves and calls Carlos and tells him how much it is and that he doesn't have the money to pay for it as he was working undercard matches and managing so he wasn't making that much money at the time. Carlos tells him to call Abdullah and to talk with Abdullah. Rico calls and Abdullah tells him to go back to the traveling agency and to call him once he was there. Rico returns and calls Abdullah and Abdullah puts his wife on the phone and she organizes the flight and Abdullah pays for Rico's ticket. The agent hands Rico the receipt for the reimbursement and it's $2,700. A couple of days pass and Rico flies to Japan. Upon arriving he meets Abdullah and they both meet with Kojika at the Big Japan office and Kojika reimburses Abdullah for plane ticket. When they leave the office, Abdullah tells Rico he knew the travel agent and he told him to make the receipt for $2,700. Abdullah gave the extra $700 to Rico so he could spend the early part of the tour without having to ask for a payment in advance as Rico only had $138 to spend for the early part of the tour until he got paid. Rico worked several Big Japan tours as Crazy Sheik.

He also told a story he had on one of his tours of Big Japan with the young lions. He said he saw them building the ring and he was going to help them and Abdullah told him not to because he was a main eventing foreigner. Rico insisted in helping them. A couple of days later they have a day off and he is training and after the training he showers and when he gets out of the shower, his ring gear was missing and he asked around and no one knew where it was. Before the next show on the tour, one of the young lions comes up to Rico and he hands him his ring gear all washed up and folded and told him they were thankful and they respected Rico because despite being in the main event, he still set time aside to help them put the ring together and after that he grew closer to them and that opened the door for him to do several other tours with Big Japan.

He also said he met Stan Hansen on one of his tours and Hansen asked who he was and he said José Estrada's son. Hansen said he was a friend of his father and he took him drinking that day with him and Rico said it was the biggest mistake he made on tour as Hansen could drink like crazy.

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Hey! Have a listen to the music they use for the trailer for the English version of the 1984 Jackie Chan comedy/martial arts vehicle Wheels on Meals. If you've watched much 90s AJPW, you'll recognize it for sure. 

Edit: From what I can figure out: The movie was released in Japan as "Spartan X" which is also the name of that song... so, surprisingly (to me at least), Misawa apparently lifted the movie theme for his entrance!

 

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2 hours ago, El Gran Gordi said:

Hey! Have a listen to the music they use for the trailer for the English version of the 1984 Jackie Chan comedy/martial arts vehicle Wheels on Meals. If you've watched much 90s AJPW, you'll recognize it for sure. 

Edit: From what I can figure out: The movie was released in Japan as "Spartan X" which is also the name of that song... so, surprisingly (to me at least), Misawa apparently lifted the movie theme for his entrance!

 

Cheers, @El Gran Gordi. Spartan X is one of the most iconic wrestling themes for the late, great, Mitsuharu Misawa.

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10 hours ago, Infinit said:

I totally co-sign Sami as 97 Bret Hart.

1997, my favourite year in wrestling history. Bret Hart was the Wrestler of the Year and in the Match of the Year vs. Steve Austin at WrestleMania 13.

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'Near or at the end of their careers' can get confusing in the world of pro wrestling where a career can have multiple endings or cameos extending decades beyond full-time activity.

 

WOR Dave recently described Minoru Suzuki as having the best year of work by a 52 year old in history. I thought that sounded like a cool spin on the wrestler of the year debate format - 'Wrestler of the Age'. Competition would be too crowded in the middle of the bell curve, but working in from the edges might be interesting.

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9 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

So, Foley, "Stan said nothing good could happen when you went out", huh? 😄

Yeah, he probably just said that to make Foley feel better. He knew that it's more like " It's unlikely that anything good happens when you go out!" But if he said that, Foley would still feel bummed out.

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3 hours ago, Salads said:

WOR Dave recently described Minoru Suzuki as having the best year of work by a 52 year old in history. I thought that sounded like a cool spin on the wrestler of the year debate format - 'Wrestler of the Age'. Competition would be too crowded in the middle of the bell curve, but working in from the edges might be interesting.

Terry Funk was 52 at the time of the Barely Legal PPV.

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Tenryu has a good year, before he had that "Change finisher every year and name it after my age" run. Which didn't work because everyone preferred the He Is 53 Years Old move to the 54 Years Old.

 

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On 11/20/2020 at 4:23 AM, Ziggy said:

 What other top level wrestlers that have had their best body of work near or at the end of their careers

All the wrestlers who were blacklisted because of the Speaking Out movement. Although that's basically just J**y R**n, M***y W******h and D***d S***r, since all of the ones with WWE contracts were forgiven (by the company, and therefore by a lot of the companies fans).

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