John from Cincinnati Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 9 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said: then again, monsters of the week aren't really meant to last long, are they? A niche really hurt by the death of the territory system, where there was always another region and another local babyface to do the arc with. With only national companies, all there is to look forward to after losing the big blowoff is 2.5 years of "LOL BIG MAN DANCING" skits until the contract finally runs out Starting from his debut, they got about two years out of Khali feuding with tippy-top babyfaces. After that, weren't we all ready for big man dancing skits to use as bathroom breaks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Big man dancing only works if the man in question's legs aren't fused concrete by that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 They gave up on Giant Bernard like a week after he beat Cena clean and he resumed hiphopapotamus duty. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 It was actually almost a year later before he went from beating Punk & Cena to tagging with Brodus Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Casey said: It was actually almost a year later before he went from beating Punk & Cena to tagging with Brodus Clay. Wow. Even more bizarre, I forgot he beat punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 12 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said: I'm still lowkey a little mad at how they tiptoed up to the very edge of doing something outside their box with Luther Reigns and then just completely chickened out of it. "I got my throat cut in prison and almost died, why the hell would I be afraid of The Undertaker?" Only to, of course, have him be the 8000th person in a row to be afraid of The Undertaker. [also for the 8000th time, why were we supposed to boo him for being a survivor of the horrible life presented in his backstory?] I know expecting logic from sports entertainment is bad idea, but, that said, WWF/E doing the 'big man is afraid of whatever' gimmick rarely makes sense, I was watching Saturday Night's Main Event last weekend and caught a Jake Roberts-Kamala match. Of course, pre-match is Jake letting Damien out of the bag and Kamala running in fear. I mean, he's supposed to be a savage from Uganda. Seems sort of silly that he acts like he's never seen a snake before. Every big man in a hundred mile radius calling out the Undertaker then cowering in fear when UT actually showed was silly. I guess no one learned their lesson when the 100 dudes that feuded with UT before them talked smack about Undertaker, only to turn into jello when the music hit, Sigh, don't even get me started on the trope of being paralyzed by confusion and fear when your match is interrupted by the entrance music of the guy you are feuding with (often without the wrestler himself appearing). Ugh. Wrestlers are apparently dimwits with the attention span of crows. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Quality trolling 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Jerry really did enjoy being a heel much more than being a face, didn't he? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 22 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: Jerry really did enjoy being a heel much more than being a face, didn't he? As does every wrestler and message board poster. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Edited November 27, 2020 by Andy in Kansas 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) This is tremendous lol Edit: which one of you is ALL ELITE SCOOBY???? Edited November 28, 2020 by Infinit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Good on Zack Ryder having a laugh about it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturmCRF Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 It struck me while half watching Roode and Ziggler vs Street Profits earlier that one of my number one most hated WWEisms is lazily starting a feud by having someone beat the champions in a non title match. Can there be any worse way to build excitement for an eventual title match than having a half formed, usually abridged version of that same match with nothing at stake? Particularly objectionable in the tag division, where their own stupid brand split contrivance means there are very few potential challengers and someone could just as feasibly be awarded a shot after reasonably pointing out that there are only two other tag teams, and the other just had a shot. Total garbage. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 agreed. another stupid thing they started overdoing 20 years ago and still haven't stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Charges against Alberto Del Rio have been dropped, the woman who accused him lied about the kidnapping and rape. And she apologized for her mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) I can't see anyone wanting to hire him. Besides say, Mexico. Edited November 28, 2020 by Six String Orchestra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, D.Z said: Charges against Alberto Del Rio have been dropped, the woman who accused him lied about the kidnapping and rape. And she apologized for her mistakes. Do you have a source for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, mattdangerously said: Do you have a source for that? https://www.tvnotas.com.mx/noticias-espectaculos-mexico/alberto-del-rio-podria-librar-la-carcel-quieren-borrar-el-cargo-por Several other websites as well reporting and more from Mexico. Quick twitter search with his WWE name will show more results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, D.Z said: https://www.tvnotas.com.mx/noticias-espectaculos-mexico/alberto-del-rio-podria-librar-la-carcel-quieren-borrar-el-cargo-por Several other websites as well reporting and more from Mexico. Quick twitter search with his WWE name will show more results. Anything with an actual source? This is just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Unrelated to ADR scumbaggery: is the Vader/Hansen rematch from June of 1990 in NJPW the most slept on match of all time*? I thought it was significantly better in pretty much every way than the far more famous eye match from the Tokyo Dome four months prior. They have a slightly more pro-wrestling match but this time they go well over 20 and there are only a couple of lulls and neither lasts long. It's my kind of wrestling with two kaiju (Kotetsu Yamamoto even calls them that on commentary!) beating the shit out of each other and throwing in the odd cool move (Vader goes for a sunset flip and Stan's reaction is The Best). There's some storytelling too beyond smashy smashy. It may be one of my favourite matches and it's something I've never seen discussed. Cagematch doesn't even have ratings for it. I'm guessing somebody on here has talked about it or over on PWO back in the day... but man. SO UNDER THE RADAR. 1990: the year of the underdog Stan Hansen fighting from beneath and getting sympathy. Going through 1990 and my two favourite surprises so far are Jerry Lynn vs. Lightning Kid in a bar basically doing the best ECW match I've ever seen 8 years in advance of the style and Hansen vs. Vader mk III. Oh and learning JYD could still have fun matches if he were in there with either Lawler or Flair. Three favourite surprises. Oh fuck and The Snowman in Memphis. That storyline was something else and the dude seemed legit awesome. The matches have been rough so far but fuck it, I don't care! FOUR surprises. *That isn't super obscure like French catch or what have you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 7:36 PM, Smelly McUgly said: No, I've always deeply hated Jimmy Valiant, so this tracks. The best thing about Jimmy Valiant in wrestling was when Pez Whatley whipped his ass for being a condescending racist with that "best black athlete" remark. The second best thing is any other time that someone whipped Valiant's punk ass. And fuck his shitty dancing. Boogie Woogie Man my ass. EDIT: And yes, I know that I ranted about this before, but like an old man telling stories about his youth, I will always take the chance to hate on Jimmy Valiant as a wrestler. If you'd like to wrap the human being up with that, go for it. My dad was a fan of Jimmy Valiant. Then we went to a stop on the Great American Bash '88 tour in Johnson City, TN. Valiant was facing Barbarian or Teijo Khan or some such. Valiant dodged a shoulder charge in the corner, and while his opponent was stunned and bent over thin the buckles, Jimmy proceeded to air-hump the Barbarian from behind. My dad never did look at Jimmy Valiant the same way afterwards. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 12:39 AM, BobbyWhioux said: Foley got over on Undertaker for a while and did last, although much of that is attributable to Foley's whole deal being that he endured way beyond what a normal and/or sane human being would withstand, so... Its crazy to think that even after that program Vince was going to let him leave. He had Undertakers best overall feud upto that point while at the same had Shawn Michaels best match as a main event guy upto then. It was until he turned Babyface and he was switching from Mankind to Dude Love to Cactus that he started being featured prominently again. If he didn't resign and went back to ECW that would have been the biggest grab for them especially in 97. If he went back to WCW it would have been a big deal too for a little while but I don't think the main event guys would have wanted to let him get over. JR and to some degree Bruce was strong enough allies for Mick that Vince gave him a shot. I'm sure him coming up with Taker have Taker more an incentive to get Mick over too. Even in that Undertaker and Kane documentary they Talked about the Kane feud was originally intended to be just a one program deal for Kane too. It would've been crazy if they let both guys go after their feuds with Taker considering how talented they were. Foley had it all. It wasn't till I got older and got to see his work prior to Mankind to see how talented he was.Its crazy how in his own bubble Vince was. He didn't see anything in Austin either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Wait when was Foley gonna leave? I don't remember reading or hearing him even wanting to leave anywhere. EDIT: Unless you're talking about him quitting because of Montreal Edited November 29, 2020 by Curt McGirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Damn....that's horrible 1 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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