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20 hours ago, matt925 said:

$30-$60. If they were doing a residency at an amphitheater here I would try to go every week. But there’s only going to be so many diehard fans out there. 

They announced a $45 pack for the three live shows in December. If they were at the Greek theater in Berkeley I would be all over that. 

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16 hours ago, odessasteps said:

I’d think being in outdoor venue in winter would be dicey, even in Florida, especially at 8 PM local time.

The stadium they're moving to is a dome. So no weather issues. Just a large cavernous 40,000 seat empty dome filled will 100,000 video screens.


ETA: Oh shit this was about AEW not the Thunderdome. My bad. Your point makes a lot more sense now.

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Hey I made a wrestling crossword last month for the Tiger Driver people, but didn't think to post it here. I believe it was @AxB who did that (thanks!).

Here is this month's.  I'm trying to keep it up at one per month going forward.  If you liked last month's, you'll probably like this one too!
 

 

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26 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:

Hey I made a wrestling crossword last month for the Tiger Driver people, but didn't think to post it here. I believe it was @AxB who did that (thanks!).

Here is this month's.  I'm trying to keep it up at one per month going forward.  If you liked last month's, you'll probably like this one too!
 

 

Yeah, that was me last month.

This one took me 15:27. I'm getting worse!

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Thanks for sharing, that was a very entertaining 19 minutes when I should have been working (I’m sure you guys will put that to shame EDIT @AxB already did as I wrote this lol). Diverse with some humour sprinkled in too.

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Im pretty sure that she’d call her ‘Mum’ not Mom for that particular answer but I’ll let it slide /s Just kidding, fantastic effort!

 

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1 hour ago, S.K.o.S. said:

Hey I made a wrestling crossword last month for the Tiger Driver people, but didn't think to post it here. I believe it was @AxB who did that (thanks!).

Here is this month's.  I'm trying to keep it up at one per month going forward.  If you liked last month's, you'll probably like this one too!
 

 

Didn't realize that you posted here! I do a *lot* of crosswords and think that these are really well made. I did the first puzzle in 8:55. This month was 8:19. Would have been like a minute faster, but that upper right quadrant really fucked me. 

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10 minutes ago, Shane said:

Would have been like a minute faster, but that upper right quadrant really fucked me. 

I have a couple of Twitter buddies test-solve the crosswords, and that was the problem area for them too.

To be specific, probably very few people would get 9A and 21A (even if they had several of the letters filled in), and someone who doesn't watch a lot of WWE tv probably wouldn't get 11D either.  I want the crosswords to be solvable, so I added the movie hint to 9A and the anagram helper to 11D.

Thanks for the compliments!

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On 11/18/2020 at 12:51 PM, Elsalvajeloco said:

Well that's a much different era of wrestling though. Moreover, I don't think anyone in wrestling wants to go back to that.

With that said, is it that hard for people to admit no one (OR at least not that many people as you think) is (are) overly enthused to come out and support your wrestling week in and out? You should go to a studio based setup that's more intimate or you need to move venues. Either way, you need a change of scenery. Free tickets ain't it.

One other problem with doing a residency is the lack of ability to road test gimmicks and ideas. One of WWE's strengths was to figure out what was working and fine tune things before making TV via there crazy house show schedule. TNA had an issue of running in the impact zone where they had the same hundred or so fans showing up every week (for free I think) and trying to take over the show. They had no idea of what was working with anyone beyond those hundred or so fans. Both WWE/AEW have a similar issue with the reduced or non fans in attendance. A problem especially for AEW when they still seem to be trying to find their sea legs.

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Shawn’s best work was post injury. Arguably the best matches were near the tail end of his career.

DDP is another, but it’s odd. His full-time in-ring career was super short. Still his best run was in 96-98. He pretty much retired, and became a part-timer after WCW folded.

Edit: Oh wait, I blanked out on his WWE run, lol.

Time to wipe my mind from those years again.

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7 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Alot of people say Stan Hansen's best year over all was '93. Obviously because his All Japan matches. What other top level wrestlers that have had their best body of work near or at the end of their careers

Blitzkreig.

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Not sure how many of you on here speak Spanish, but La Malicia (Dennis and Noel Rivera) have a podcast and the guests in this weeks episode were Los Fugitivos (Niche and Lynx). They talked about their starts in the business and the Caguas Screwjob. It's a two part podcast. This is the first part. I believe they will be uploading part 2 next week. It's worth noting, Dennis is the brother of Savio Vega who ran IWA and Noel is the son of Victor the Bodyguard who used to be Chicky Starr's bodyguard in WWC and then his tag team partner in Starr Corporation in early 2000's IWA. Dennis, Noel, Niche and Lynx also came through the business together, so they knew each as they worked smaller indy shows together before making it on TV in WWC and IWA.

Before the Caguas Screwjob, IWA and WWC tried to work an invasion angle and they had some invasions occur, but ultimately WWC backed out and didn't want to continue the angle. At the time, Dennis and Noel were the IWA tag team champs. Despite WWC backing out of the invasion angle, Carlos Colón wanted to bring La Malicia in to have a 2 match program with Los Fugitivos. La Malicia agreed to meet with Carlos to talk about the program. They met in Santurce and Carlos made them a good financial offer and they agreed to work the angle. However, given WWC's past of not paying wrestlers or checks bouncing, Dennis and Noel said they would have to get paid before the matches. Once they reached an agreement for the program, Dennis began thinking they should take the opportunity and stick it to WWC for backing out of the angle by shooting on them and stealing the titles.

Despite having reached agreement with Carlos, Dennis and Noel kept it quiet and Dennis opted not to tell Savio. After they reached an agreement to work the angle, Dennis and Noel called Niche and Lynx and they talked about changing whichever finish they would be given and turning into a full blown shoot with Dennis and Noel stealing the titles. Niche and Lynx weren't receptive as they were hot at the time and they didn't want to burn any bridges with WWC, so they turned it down. However, Dennis and Noel had already made up their minds and they were going to steal the titles regardless. Dennis also said he spoke with Moody who does commentary for AAA and who is his friend as they worked together in IWA. Dennis said Moody suggested they shouldn't go through with it as they will end up burning that bridge if they did steal the titles.

A couple of weeks before the match, Carlos contacted Dennis and Noel again and asked them to record some promos for the match. Dennis and Noel reiterated in their promos they would be leaving with the WWC titles one way or another, however no one knows this is their actual plan and not just a line they are dropping in their promos.

Dennis and Noel planned this out entirely as they knew the heat between the two companies was legit. They knew if they stole the titles, WWC would not air the match on TV, so they organized with someone secretly who would come to the arena and record the match so they could later share the footage of occurred. They also knew they wouldn't have much time to abandon the venue once they had the titles, so Dennis told Noel to bring as little things possible so they could grab them and rush out as soon as possible. Since the heat was legitimate between the companies, Dennis and Noel knew they needed to have backup in case someone pulled a gun on them before they got to leave the venue, so they had two people with them armed with guns just in case. Given they knew they would be tight on time, they had someone drive to the venue and wait for them outside, so they could leave the venue as quick as possible.

The day of the event Dennis and Noel arrived early at the arena and met with Carlos and they got paid. Orlando Colón also known as Epico Colón on WWE gave them the finish and it was supposed to be a double pin draw and a representative from the athletic commission would come out declare the match a draw which would vacate the titles and lead to the rematch. Before the match, Dennis and Noel cut another promo and again reiterate they will be leaving the venue with the titles one way or another. In the closing moments of the match, they call for the finish, but La Malicia decide to go with their own finish and the end up hitting a shoot sunset flip and the referee counts to three and Dennis and Noel win the match and win the titles. After the match they storm out of the venue and WWC has a locally well know security guard who they call Carlos Bocachula. He is standing in front of Noel and Dennis, but he's out of the loop of what's happening so he doesn't try to stop Dennis or Noel as they are leaving. Meanwhile Niche and Lynx chase behind them and Niche said he was legit mad at them and they were going to get into a fight if they could catch them.

That's where the podcast ends. Next week they should be uploading the second episode and I will be posting it on here and I will also be posting cliff notes along with it.

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