Dolfan in NYC Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Going to be busy later. Here's your Raw Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 They really had a Muslim wrestler join a faction that's based on "Antifa". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 So I guess that explains the hacking element of Retribution? Ali is a good talker and great wrestler but good luck.. Show was mostly background noise for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I definitely caught MVP calling T-Bar "T-Bag" tonight. *chef's kiss* Lee and Strowman steamrolling each other was pretty fucking cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Braun & Lee beating the crap out of each other was neat. Hopefully they deliver in a real match later on. The 6-women tag was decent. Lana was put through a table by Nia again. I like that it happened with her trying to protect Nattie this time. Riott Squad vs. Nia/Shayna was good. This is the best Riot Squad has looked in the ring and Nia/Shayna have made a decent team. I still have no idea what the end game is for the two as team. Ali being revealed as Retribution's leader is something. I'm honestly not sure what to think. I kind of like him being involved in a big angle. At the same time its Retribution, and I would rather he not be saddled with this shit. On the other hand he makes them feel ever so slightly less shitty as the leader. Took a while, but it was good to see Murphy finally turn on Seth. Edited October 6, 2020 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eivion said: Ali being revealed as Retribution's leader is something. I'm honestly not sure what to think. I kind of like him being involved in a big angle. At the same time its Retribution, and I would rather he not be saddled with this shit. On the other hand he makes them feel ever so slightly less shitty as the leader. Two questions regarding this - 1) Does this make Retribution de facto faces now? 2) Byron saying Ali was the leader all along is verrrry problematic. Like, where is he getting this from exactly? Joe was correct in saying he had joined, then (when it was apparent) asked how long he had been involved. Byron going all-out and announcing the he had been leading from the beginning was reckless. Edited October 6, 2020 by The Green Meanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said: Like, where is he getting this from exactly? Ali dished out the order to beat down the Hurt Business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I love Mustafa Ali. But they turned him heel AND saddled him with the worst faction in the history of this company? I want to see him pushed, but I didn't realize that was a monkey's paw wish. Goddamn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: I definitely caught MVP calling T-Bar "T-Bag" tonight. *chef's kiss* Lee and Strowman steamrolling each other was pretty fucking cool. Well, someone WAS going to use that eventually, so good on MVP to get ahead of the pack, because that was a low hanging fruit, right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shartnado said: low hanging fruit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, Casey said: Yeah, I knew someone was going to grab that one! I wonder if T-Bag Dijak is going to change his catch phrase from " Feast Your Eyes" to ... I've got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The Retribution thing would have been ten times better if in between putting his hand out and curling it up into a ball, Ali did the Dark Order gesture for half a second and winked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 If they tied Ali and Retribution to the whole hacker gimmick he had then it has some potential. But this is the WWE so I fully expect him to be Muhammed Hassan version 2.0 in about a month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Apollo is really bad at picking friends. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Casey said: They really had a Muslim wrestler join a faction that's based on "Antifa". Okay, I'll bite. What do Muslims have to do with Antifa one way or the other? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 Bad faith arguments by American conservatives/reactionary right wing, which makes terrorists muslims and/or members of the highly organized organization which definitely exists Antifa. Vince isn't exactly known for his or his family's liberal views on things. So, this guy who's made a BIG deal about his career not having anything to do with his religious beliefs and the stereotypes (WRONGLY) attributed thereto, is now the leader of a faction of anti-authoritarian, anarchistic heels. It's not exactly horrible yet, but you know if past performance is any kind of indicator... this is not going to go well. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 hours ago, The Green Meanie said: 2) Byron saying Ali was the leader all along is verrrry problematic. Like, where is he getting this from exactly? Joe was correct in saying he had joined, then (when it was apparent) asked how long he had been involved. Byron going all-out and announcing the he had been leading from the beginning was reckless. I'm assuming Ali is the leader because he seemingly gave the signal to attack the Hurt Business and he's the only unmasked wrestler in the faction. Not really logical, I know,but that's how wrestling works. I'm wondering if Ali was supposed to be the leader (?) all along? Knowing Vince, he just came up with this angle yesterday afternoon, but who knows. There were a couple bigger names rumored to be leader (Keith Lee). The afternoon they taped the first Retribution segment, WWE put out a statement saying it was just going to be a wrestling angle, not a political statement, so maybe they planned Antifa association from the start. Honestly, their statement gave the idea Retribution were probably going to be African-American heels who shouted BLM slogans. Vince doesn't do subtlety well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 59 minutes ago, Eoae said: Honestly, their statement gave the idea Retribution were probably going to be African-American heels who shouted BLM slogans. Vince doesn't do subtlety well. I remember this was about the same time they supposedly were going to bring back the NOD, which may have morphed into what The Hurt Business is now. The statement that they had released about it not being political didn't give a BLM vibe off at all, but rather an Antifa one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1.791 million viewers 1.666 million viewers 1.601 million viewers Down from last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Eoae said: I'm assuming Ali is the leader because he seemingly gave the signal to attack the Hurt Business and he's the only unmasked wrestler in the faction. Not really logical, I know,but that's how wrestling works. I'm wondering if Ali was supposed to be the leader (?) all along? Knowing Vince, he just came up with this angle yesterday afternoon, but who knows. There were a couple bigger names rumored to be leader (Keith Lee). The afternoon they taped the first Retribution segment, WWE put out a statement saying it was just going to be a wrestling angle, not a political statement, so maybe they planned Antifa association from the start. Honestly, their statement gave the idea Retribution were probably going to be African-American heels who shouted BLM slogans. Vince doesn't do subtlety well. I could be wrong, but wasn’t Bruce Pritchard on the Smackdown staff when the hacker stuff started? Now that he’s on the Raw staff, I don’t know that it’s as much as stretch as usual to wonder if Ali was the plan from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Eoae said: I'm wondering if Ali was supposed to be the leader (?) all along? Knowing Vince, he just came up with this angle yesterday afternoon, but who knows. There were a couple bigger names rumored to be leader (Keith Lee). The afternoon they taped the first Retribution segment, WWE put out a statement saying it was just going to be a wrestling angle, not a political statement, so maybe they planned Antifa association from the start. Honestly, their statement gave the idea Retribution were probably going to be African-American heels who shouted BLM slogans. Vince doesn't do subtlety well. From the little bit of start and stop pushes he's gotten over the past few years Ali seemed like he could've been a great career long babyface. Really same for Keith Lee. Both guys should be really over babyfaces right now especially Lee. Like you really have to put in some effort for Keith Lee not to be At least second to the top baby face right now. I hope Ali makes this work because at least he'll be more than just a guy that can pull out an awesome match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Ziggy said: From the little bit of start and stop pushes he's gotten over the past few years Ali seemed like he could've been a great career long babyface. Really same for Keith Lee. Both guys should be really over babyfaces right now especially Lee. Like you really have to put in some effort for Keith Lee not to be At least second to the top baby face right now. I hope Ali makes this work because at least he'll be more than just a guy that can pull out an awesome match. I'm just hoping this doesn't change his Twitter feed at all. Be a real jolt to switch over to DOOM N GLOOM after all the stuff off him with his wife and kids being super-wholesome and adorable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Pete said: I'm just hoping this doesn't change his Twitter feed at all. Be a real jolt to switch over to DOOM N GLOOM after all the stuff off him with his wife and kids being super-wholesome and adorable. I'm afraid I've got some BAD NEWS! /Barrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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