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OCTOBER 2020 WRESTLING TALK


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2 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

We got Dish. I don't pay for anything they put out, and don't even watch it most of the time, because it's terrible.

And why should you? Everyone should only watch what they actually get JOY from watching. Hate-watching anything is such an utopian concept to me, although I'm fully aware it happens... a lot!

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1 hour ago, christopher.annino said:

How many people here have stopped watching WWE altogether? Stopped subscribing to the network? I'm curious.

Deleting Facebook has done me wonders mentally, and I'm sure not watching WWE anymore has helped as well. That sounds self-righteous, I know. It is true, though. 

I stopped watching the weekly shows years ago. The last events I watched were Mania and the MitB matches.

 

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I anticipate the classic content each month way more than I should. Some months such as Prime Time Wrestling, ECW Super shows, WCW TV have been incredible. I've been cool with the WWF Superstars also.  But the Velocity, Confidential, has been meh especially with so much more that could and should be added.  Having said that I anxiously await the November upload and pray for something good. 

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17 minutes ago, Shartnado said:

And why should you? Everyone should only watch what they actually get JOY from watching. Hate-watching anything is such an utopian concept to me, although I'm fully aware it happens... a lot!

It’s like, I don’t care for hockey. I’ve tried to get into it and it’s just not for me. So there’s no way in hell I’m going to watch it every week yelling “this shit sucks man!” And I’m certainly not going to a hockey message board and telling everyone they’re a bunch of losers for liking it. Just doesn’t make any sense. Fortunately there’s 1 million entertainment options and we can all find something we enjoy. 

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2 minutes ago, matt925 said:

It’s like, I don’t care for hockey. I’ve tried to get into it and it’s just not for me. So there’s no way in hell I’m going to watch it every week yelling “this shit sucks man!” And I’m certainly not going to a hockey message board and telling everyone they’re a bunch of losers for liking it. Just doesn’t make any sense. Fortunately there’s 1 million entertainment options and we can all find something we enjoy. 

And it's like I don't like Hockey! And everyone (aside from my wife and myself) loves Hockey in Finland! I get your point, but the point of your point gets me!

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I deleted Facebook when the pandemic started and cancelled my Network subscription not too long after Money in the Bank. If I really need anything those websites provided I can find them another way. I don't think I ever hate-watched WWE, I held out hope for far too long that I would be able to watch some of my faves in decent programs and there were always hints at greatness but after a while it became clear that nothing anyone does in WWE matters week to week. Then I kept the Network for NXT but when they went head to head with AEW I could only watch NXT if I had time which led to me just not watching NXT. So I'm back to checking out random matches if you all say they were good (or really bad). My only interest in WWE these days is how they're going to book the Royal Rumble, especially the next one given the 'demic.

This time I tuned back in to see Daniel Bryan in WWE starting around the Nexus debut in 2010 to this year so that's a good decade streak of watching. Before that I watched from 1988 (Mr. Perfect's debut) to 2001 (Invasion). Can't wait to see what they put out in 2029 that will bring me back!

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Let's see: I watch NXT, NXT UK ( which used to be my overall favorite before the pandemic), the PPV's, the classics from wherever, but mostly 90's WCW and WWF, if there's Kamala, Arn Anderson or Buddy Landell, I'll do Mid-South and if there's Terry Gordy, Gino Hernandez or Kerry Von Erich , I will do World Class! If those are not available, I'll watch un-natural looking guys with ridiculous physiques beating each other up! I guess I could watch '92 Rick Rude fuck up '86 Dynamite Kid with Kid cradle tombstoning Rude for the win, all day long!

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1 hour ago, Shartnado said:

 Now, I could find a way to watch French Catch or AEW on TNT, but I still would probably not give this up.

French Catch is on Matt D's YouTube channel. AEW is (live & commercial free) on Fite.tv for $4.99 a month (which also gives access you the entire Dynamite archive). Also there's a chatroom during the live airing, but lets not get into that.

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No one hate-watches WWE, it's worse - it's hope-watching. Hope they push your guy, hope they don't fuck up so and so on the main roster, hope they don't punish someone for getting over without permission, hope the right guys go over, hope Vince doesn't get bored with your favorite, hope the creative gets better, hope the finishes make sense... 

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5 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

No one hate-watches WWE, it's worse - it's hope-watching. Hope they push your guy, hope they don't fuck up so and so on the main roster, hope they don't punish someone for getting over without permission, hope the right guys go over, hope Vince doesn't get bored with your favorite, hope the creative gets better, hope the finishes make sense... 

That's basically what I was doing. Keith Lee, Aleister Black, Rhea Ripley, Ricochet, and some others were basically my last best hope and...well, I don't have any more hope.

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4 minutes ago, AxB said:

French Catch is on Matt D's YouTube channel. AEW is (live & commercial free) on Fite.tv for $4.99 a month (which also gives access you the entire Dynamite archive). Also there's a chatroom during the live airing, but lets not get into that.

Thank you so much. I will explore these options and appreciate them, but it is likely that I still won't discontinue the Network. If I could be bothered, I'd probably be there already!

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12 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

No one hate-watches WWE, it's worse - it's hope-watching. Hope they push your guy, hope they don't fuck up so and so on the main roster, hope they don't punish someone for getting over without permission, hope the right guys go over, hope Vince doesn't get bored with your favorite, hope the creative gets better, hope the finishes make sense... 

hard to argue that there are not people here that appear to hate watch WWE, given the vitriolic posts with every news story or TV thread. (Not that they don’t have valid criticisms, of course, but that’s a tangential issue.)

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5 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

hard to argue that there are not people here that appear to hate watch WWE, given the vitriolic posts with every news story or TV thread. (Not that they don’t have valid criticisms, of course, but that’s a tangential issue.)

All of this right here!

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The last time I watched WWE was the first ThunderDome show. It was just a new coat of paint. I don't understand why people continue to want to work there when it just burns so many out before them physically and mentally.

Plus I see Orton is champ again and I cannot bring myself to care about that. I used to enjoy NXT, it now has fallen victim to the usual booking.

I cancelled because of pandemic related budget cutbacks on my part and kept Wrestling Universe and NJPW World. I enjoy wrestling much more again. 

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2 hours ago, christopher.annino said:

How many people here have stopped watching WWE altogether? Stopped subscribing to the network? I'm curious.

Deleting Facebook has done me wonders mentally, and I'm sure not watching WWE anymore has helped as well. That sounds self-righteous, I know. It is true, though. 

Cancelled the Network, quit watching all their TV and don't even bother reading up about results. Don't miss it either. Between AEW and Impact there's enough wrestling out there I actually enjoy watching. 

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25 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

hard to argue that there are not people here that appear to hate watch WWE, given the vitriolic posts with every news story or TV thread. (Not that they don’t have valid criticisms, of course, but that’s a tangential issue.)

I was admittedly being a little hyperbolic to make my point. But the rest of my post stands!

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People watch wrestling? Noted. I haven't seen anything since February besides a bit of Kingston on AEW and any WWE in full in so long I can't even remember. I read what happens on the shows and I feel fine.

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My only exposure to WWE is here. I dip into the show threads to get a gist of what's going on. I get both the argument that most people hope-watch, and that there's definitely those that hate-watch. I understand the first but not the latter. 

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2 hours ago, El Gran Gordi said:

You want self-righteous? How about this: Why, oh why, does anyone still bother watching WWE? 

Because I enjoy it and in the past, have liked coming here to talk about it. But I don't want or need the self-important, holier than thou attitude that comes from doing that around here. Being called dumb, a sheep, and sometimes worse.

If you or others find no pleasure in it, that's fine. I'm not here to convince you otherwise. I wish the same courtesy was extended in reverse.

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1 minute ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

Because I enjoy it and in the past, have liked coming here to talk about it. But I don't want or need the self-important, holier than thou attitude that comes from doing that around here. Being called dump, a sheep, and sometimes worse.

If you or others find no pleasure in it, that's fine. I'm not here to convince you otherwise. I wish the same courtesy was extended in reverse.

I don't think anybody should be given shit for watching WWE, but that's a whole separate thought from "WWE is objectively a bad company." So are most corporations. It's virtually impossible to live in this world and not somehow support some shady shit, which is an absolute bummer. 

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