username Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Going back to Ben Carter for a second, regardless of one's feelings about WWE or AEW if one offers to pay you and the other offers to let you work for free... that's a pretty easy choice to make if one isn't independently wealthy. I can see a larger point about where one should want to work but in this particular case I don't see an argument for him making the wrong choice. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Taker losing in the fashion he did to Hogan vacating the title and subsequent Rumble is far better than him getting demolished by Hogan at Mania 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Linus said: Plus NXT-UK would be a massive step back for Carter. NXT UK isn't a massive step back from AEW Dark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) Edited October 18, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 Daniel Bryan, Kevin Owens (he's right, WWE Universal Championship challenger), Bianca Belair and Shinsuke Nakamura/Cesaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 They only really put him there coz Sami is the champ. Although, weren't they on the same side most recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Peck said: NXT UK isn't a massive step back from AEW Dark. I mean, it really is. The lack of interest in NXT-UK means that it's a step down from any random promotion on IWTV at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReiseReise Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 6 hours ago, username said: Going back to Ben Carter for a second, regardless of one's feelings about WWE or AEW if one offers to pay you and the other offers to let you work for free... that's a pretty easy choice to make if one isn't independently wealthy. I can see a larger point about where one should want to work but in this particular case I don't see an argument for him making the wrong choice. Maybe whoever argues otherwise are the people venting at artists asking prices for commissions, wanting to pay for their work with "exposure"... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Presumably if AEW signed him, they would be able to actually sort out a USA Work Visa. But for a one-shot booking, it's not worth it. Also, there's this: It's a post-match interview following his final College Soccer game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ziggy said: Considering he was originally supposed to win RR 97, they were obviously building towards Shawn vs Bret at WrestleMania 13. Shawn gave up the belt because of "knee" problems anyway so Bret probably would've gotten a title match at Mania and Austin wouldn't have had his breakout match unless they figured him into the title picture somehow based off his feud with Bret That's an interesting idea. Who could have Austin had his break out match with at that show if not Bret? If it's Bret/Shawn for the world title that leaves Undertaker and Sid to either face each other or Steve. There's also Ken Shamrock, it was a little early in his WWF career but he'd been wrestling on and off since '88. But more importantly there was that odd heel/heel tag match with Owen Hart and Bulldog against Vader and Mankind so if you bust up that match you have four of the best workers in the company at the time. Undertaker seems the likely choice, he has the right combination of main event status and unstoppability that Austin could rally against. Owen Hart seems possible although he may not have had the upper card cache necessary and you couldn't do the same finish unless Owen had been massively upgraded in the run up (like, clean pin on Undertaker upgrade). Vader could get the same effect by mauling Austin, the bloom was a little off the rose for him at that point but not so much that he couldn't be heated up again. He would have to be WCW Vader though if he still had it in him. Mankind is an interesting option. He's coming off a feud with Taker and that incredible match with Shawn at Mind Games then gets somewhat lost in the shuffle in early '97, I think he and Austin could have had a great dynamic even if the turn wouldn't have been as powerful. Bret was so goody goody that made it Austin a rebel and Foley doesn't have that. My question is would a break out Austin match at WM13 worked as well without the double turn? He would either have to turn face in the match, which would mean going in heel/heel against someone like Vader or trying to turn while fighting a full on face like Taker, or he would have to turn in the lead up. Turning Stone Cold at that time wouldn't have taken a big push, one Stunner at the right time and he'd be the man. I think Bret made Austin in that match and he would have made it anyway given his career trajectory but it was that specific angle that got him over to the extent it did, and cemented Bret as the top heel in 1997 (suck it, Hogan). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo2653 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Does anyone know the reason why women wear stockings when they wrestle? Would it not look as good with bare legs? Protection? Sometimes it's jarring if the stockings are that much different color-wise from their bare skin. I remember an Alexa Bliss/Lacey Evans match from a month or so ago and I couldn't figure out of Alexa had a bad bruise or what until I realized it was the top of her stockings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 Longer trailer version for 30 Days of the Deadman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ramo2653 said: Does anyone know the reason why women wear stockings when they wrestle? Would it not look as good with bare legs? Protection? Sometimes it's jarring if the stockings are that much different color-wise from their bare skin. I remember an Alexa Bliss/Lacey Evans match from a month or so ago and I couldn't figure out of Alexa had a bad bruise or what until I realized it was the top of her stockings. I've also wondered that. Without knowing, comfort and better on camera? Bare arms would match bare legs while the colour of some stockings don't match the skin tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 This isn't a gif so I won't post it in that thread. Is this the new Kaz/Raven splat spot to capture our morbid fascination? "Is he... Brother." perfect. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jiji said: This isn't a gif so I won't post it in that thread. Is this the new Kaz/Raven splat spot to capture our morbid fascination? "Is he... Brother." perfect. Bloody hell. You've reminded me of: 07:32 mark. Edited October 18, 2020 by The Natural 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Does anyone know the reason why women wear stockings when they wrestle? Would it not look as good with bare legs? Protection? Cellulite? 4 hours ago, Godfrey said: My question is would a break out Austin match at WM13 worked as well without the double turn? He would either have to turn face in the match, which would mean going in heel/heel against someone like Vader or trying to turn while fighting a full on face like Taker, or he would have to turn in the lead up. Turning Stone Cold at that time wouldn't have taken a big push, one Stunner at the right time and he'd be the man. I think Bret made Austin in that match and he would have made it anyway given his career trajectory but it was that specific angle that got him over to the extent it did, and cemented Bret as the top heel in 1997 (suck it, Hogan). Bret vs Austin at Mania 13 was unique in that it achieved two things, both cementing Austin as on the same level as the main eventers, and turning him face simultaneously. But you have to bear in mind that going into that match, the audience had basically turned Austin face already, several months earlier. So if Austin wasn't going to be working Bret, having him turn during his match at Mania doesn't necessarily have to be the plan. He could have just wrestled Taker and won, then turned babyface after the match or something... which does end the streak before it ever starts to be significant, but never mind about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Does anyone know the reason why women wear stockings when they wrestle? Would it not look as good with bare legs? Protection? Sometimes it's jarring if the stockings are that much different color-wise from their bare skin. I remember an Alexa Bliss/Lacey Evans match from a month or so ago and I couldn't figure out of Alexa had a bad bruise or what until I realized it was the top of her stockings. I've wondered this too, they already fake tan so it's really jarring when their tights are even more orange. Always wondered why male wrestlers wax/shave their whole bodies too, chest I can maybe understand, but guys like HHH, Orton don't even have leg hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The shaving comes from bodybuilding. There's a belief that having body hair obscures the muscle tone, and just looks unsightly in general. There aren't many wrestlers who've been on TV with body hair, who weren't doing some sort of ugly person gimmick. Anyway, you know how sometimes people who do livestreaming get to the end of the stream and say goodbye, they accidentally turn off the monitor but not the stream or the camera? So they keep broadcasting but they think they've stopped? Caristico did that today. Took his mask off on cam and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 If always assumed leggings were mainly cosmetic. Shaving, I was told by an indy worker, was for hygiene (and usually included being manscaped). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 14 year old Chris Masters with Chyna. Matt Justice vs Sabu. Edited October 18, 2020 by AxB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Tarp is pro wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Does anyone know the reason why women wear stockings when they wrestle? Would it not look as good with bare legs? Protection? Sometimes it's jarring if the stockings are that much different color-wise from their bare skin. I remember an Alexa Bliss/Lacey Evans match from a month or so ago and I couldn't figure out of Alexa had a bad bruise or what until I realized it was the top of her stockings. If I had to guess, it's to give them an extra layer of clothing in case of a malfunction. The only recent woman who wore shorts and not stockings was Ronda, who came from a sport where she wouldn't have been in the habit of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I will defer to people who've actually worn stockings/etc. to give an answer to that as I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 The first woman I recall wearing stocking/hose was wendi Richter in the wwf. A quick youtube search though shows her wrestling on Mid South TV vs Velvet McIntyre and both are bare legged. So, maybe it was a Vince thing first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 2:34 PM, Andy in Kansas said: IIRC, they kept momentum for both guys and appetite for the blow-off pretty high until Lockdown. And then, in what seems like a crazy move in hindsight but sort of made sense at the time, the pivoted to Austin Aries as champ. After that, Roode and Storm kinda dragged ass all the way to Bound For Glory where their big blow-off was a street fight with King Mo as the enforcer. Very TNA. Agreed, the build up to Lockdown as a steel cage blowoff was perfect and Storm would've been set if he went over there. That said, I did love the finish and Roode's reign in general, how he always had different chickenshit heel ways of retaining the title like that. And then of course Aries winning the title is maybe my all time favorite match/moment from TNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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