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16 minutes ago, Matt D said:

I think a good answer is Halftime Heat. That wasn't all done in one take, right?

I was going to say that it didn't count because it all could've been done in a regular match, but then I remembered that asinine shot of the forklift lowering the pallet onto Rock

Edit: @bp great minds and all that

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29 minutes ago, supremebve said:

Was Steve Austin beating up Booker T in a grocery store an official match?  There was even a musical number in that one if it is.

No, but it should have been.

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3 hours ago, The Natural said:

 

The meeting was filmed and put on their website and YouTube, then taken down soon after because of this.
That answers the ‘somehow’ part to this jabroni’s tweet 

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It's hard to describe how weird the Angle situation was.  His drug problem was *ahem* allegedly so bad that the company was afraid (after Benoit & Guerrero) to have another top guy die, so they let him walk.  I remember hearing him being interviewed on local radio shortly after his departure and he sounded so fucked up.  Can someone explain how he didn't die in TNA?  Because that's the one thing I don't remember, as I didn't watch their shows.  Was it a lightened schedule?  Did he see the light and get the help he declined while in WWE?  Both?  Something else?

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I always figured Angle was in that Keith Richards/Iggy Pop spot of being able to Handle His Shit enough to not die, but not quite enough to be a functional human being.

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Who would believe Renee confirming everything that her and Mox told Meltzer? She wasn't in the room and doesn't know about her own diagnosis and treatment by the company. 

 

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on another note. the Island Death Match discussion reminded me - what are the ESSENTIAL Inoki matches? I don't need to watch the best per se but just like 6-8 most historically important matches.* I have never watched any of his stuff.

 

*I don' t need to watch the Death Island or Ali stuff. 

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I had largely checked out of WWE by 2005. I've seen the clip of "bestiality" but there's so much more to it. Wow. And that TNA "yeaaaah" clip is legendary.

Vince and pilled up Kurt were a dangerous combination.

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1 hour ago, Hagan said:

what are the ESSENTIAL Inoki matches?

I’m not gonna go full on listamania but Inoki v Billy Robinson from 75 is pretty much how a wrestling match should be in an ideal world 

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Wouldn't call it essential but his match vs. The Great Antonio is something you should go out of your way to see if you haven't.  This big fat guy dicks around no-selling everything.  So Inoki puts an end to it by beating the legit shit out of him.

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Summer of 84 vs. Choshu is the best Inoki match I've seen and by far his best performance but I haven't seen a lot of '70s nwa style Inoki. 

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20 minutes ago, sydneybrown said:

Wouldn't call it essential but his match vs. The Great Antonio is something you should go out of your way to see if you haven't.  This big fat guy dicks around no-selling everything.  So Inoki puts an end to it by beating the legit shit out of him.

I think Bill Burr did a YouTube video where he did commentary on this match or at least he was describing what went down. It's pretty hilarious.

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3 hours ago, sydneybrown said:

Did he come out to Voodoo Child at the time?

I would have gone with the ice cream truck music to go with the paedophile look.

 

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51 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:

Does a cinematic match have to look like it was filmed cinematiclly? 

I would say it shouldn't be filmed like a typical in arena brawl or match.

Which is why, while I can accept the arguments for it, I personally didn't consider the Backlot brawl as a cinematic match.  The Hardy Compound matches I just forgot about. 

I mean some of the old Hardcore Title stuff would almost qualify as "cinematic" if the only criteria is shot outside the arena/stadium/parkling lot where Ian Rotten set up to grift some locals...

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Is there something new about the Angle/WWE story?  Meltzer and others have discussed Kurt’s addiction and the Wellness Policy meeting in great detail over the years and WWE even uploaded video footage from it (right before someone in management regained their senses and had it taken down).  Unless I’m missing something, Trevor Dame’s reporting a story I’ve heard at least a dozen times.

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1 hour ago, sydneybrown said:

Wouldn't call it essential but his match vs. The Great Antonio is something you should go out of your way to see if you haven't.  This big fat guy dicks around no-selling everything.  So Inoki puts an end to it by beating the legit shit out of him.

Didn't have the Great Antonio some serious mental health issues? I have seen clips of that "match" in the past and find it pretty disturbing, especially considering the issues the Great Antonio apparently had.

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