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19 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trainwreck wasn't bad for a romantic comedy, and Cena was perfect in his role.

Between Trainwreck and Blockers, I’m surprised he hasn’t been booked in more Apatow-esque comedies.

7 minutes ago, Lawful Metal said:

That's DISRESPECT~!

My deepest apologies, counselor!

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9 minutes ago, Lawful Metal said:

That's DISRESPECT~!  I miss Devin and Sven too. 

I've been here since the green and yellow.  Came because of Scheider Comps.  I was banned semi-regularly, usually during the NBA playoffs.  Go figure.  I was actually perma-banned for a while and just lurking until the last time they had to put the whole board back together and I was magically unbanned.  Maybe no one recognizes me as Lawful Metal. 

To be honest I'm surprised I haven't been banned again. 

100% I've used "Number one and the best" and "You gotta be joking me" in trial.  It's on the record.

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I grew up on this board.  Please don't ban me. 

You have changed quite a bit from when you were younger. Back then everyone would complain about Kurt being Cute, and you'd troll Mag7 by talking about how your girlfriend was Married (to someone who wasn't you).

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9 minutes ago, Edwin said:

I haven't seen much pre-2004 IWA-MS, but am watching some stuff now on Independent Wrestling TV and it was much crazier than I thought.

Wolfie D shooting on Ox Harley.

Tracy Smothers! Dude was legit nuts. He started a worked/shoot riot brawling with Bobby Eaton.

2001-2005 IWA-MS is gold

 

Tracy is one of the nicest guys you can meet. I say it often but for Tracy it has to be said. After a show i was hanging out with SJK and Punk  talking about Tool Bootlegs (circa 2004) and Tracy was at his looking bummed. I went over and bought a shirt (the red one with the confederate flag)  He signed it, pulled me in close and said "you just filled my gas tank, thank you"   After that Tracy would appear with Hamrick every month and he would always ask how I was doing and thank me for supporting him.  30+ yr vet and they don't come any nicer than Tracy. 

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So now the beautiful Lexi Kauffman has joined Cameo.  If you thought David Hassellhoff's $300 price was steep, move over because Lexi is charging $400!  That's almost $100 per foot of fury.  Not to be outdone... Roman Reigns is charging $500!!  Yeah I'm sure his fan base really can afford the $500 for a 2 minute video!   

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7 minutes ago, AxB said:

You have changed quite a bit from when you were younger. Back then everyone would complain about Kurt being Cute, and you'd troll Mag7 by talking about how your girlfriend was Married (to someone who wasn't you).

I married her and I have six kids.  Jokes on him!

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4 minutes ago, BrianS81177 said:

Cena was the only good thing about Trainwreck

Not a Marv Albert fan? LeBron was MVP of that flick.

So I haven’t seen I Look Pretty but I watched Trainwreck and the one with Goldie Han and they weren’t bad movies:

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3 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said:

So now the beautiful Lexi Kauffman has joined Cameo.  If you thought David Hassellhoff's $300 price was steep, move over because Lexi is charging $400!  That's almost $100 per foot of fury.  Not to be outdone... Roman Reigns is charging $500!!  Yeah I'm sure his fan base really can afford the $500 for a 2 minute video!   

Effy is like $15. And last month he was donating all proceeds to a charity for black homeless trans people (this month he's donating it to his landlord, in the form of rent).

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2 minutes ago, AxB said:

Effy is like $15. And last month he was donating all proceeds to a charity for black homeless trans people (this month he's donating it to his landlord, in the form of rent).

Joel Gertner called my friend on his birthday and spoke with him for 30 plus mins. $500 for a 2 min shout out is absurd. No parent is spending $500 on their kid for that, no adult would be feeling that bad that they would say "gee, I feel like shit, I'm going to pay $500 for a shout out from Roman Reigns"    I mean it's absolutely outrageous!!!! 

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Some people have more money than sense. If Lesnar sets up a Cameo and charges $100,000 that one guy will still buy one. And he'll tweet it, and it will be this:

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I'm Brock Lesnar, and this is me giving a shout out to the Brock Lesnar guy (does the pose. Pause. Stare at camera)  How do you turn this thing off?

 

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When I first tentatively lurked here and even more shakily posted my first question about Megumi Kudo back in late '99 I was juuuuust getting back into wrestling after having "grown out of it" around '89 or so and missed most of everything in the nineties.  I had recently seen a clip of Foley promos and another of the infamous "chopee your peepee" bit on like real player and thought "I think there might be something here speaking profoundly to my dramatic sensibilities...."

 

I had a lot of catching up to do. I literally knew nothing not just about recent WWE history, or about Japan, Mexico, ECW, WCW or anything else.  Hell, since my initial childhood fandom had ended while still in late childhood, and well before the internet, I still had no idea about what "wrestling" was other than the same basic "It's fake" maybe with a qualifying "but hey a 300 pound guy jumping off a turnbuckle onto another 300 pound guy and somehow not hurting each other is still impressive, right?" that I had when I was 11 (along with a stubborn instinctive understanding that it was always Piper and Macho who really mattered).

As I was being pulled into this miraculous modern comedia dell'arte/improvised stunt show/soap opera/concert/geek show that is wrestling and peeling the layers of things about it that are astounding, disgusting, fascinating, and still mysterious, it was crazy how quickly DVDVR board jumped out as the only place in that era of IWC that captured the depth and breadth of all that mystery and history and somehow managed not to be snobby (or at least not for too long on any one idea before a corrective streak of shame and contrarianism kicked in), not to be gross and un-inclusive, to always be sneakily intellectually challenging while playing charmingly dumb, and to be a place where even I felt I could occasionally post with my next-to-nothing actual knowledge of wrestling and my tendency to favor the drama and schtick of it over the w*rkr%te without getting blasted for it.

Shit I don't think I can name many other things in my life I've stuck with without getting bored of or disillusioned about for 21 months let alone 21 years. Maybe the movie MEATBALLS and the t.v. show COLUMBO.

DVDVR, MEATBALLS, and COLUMBO are the things we should have sent up in Voyager.

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25 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said:

Joel Gertner called my friend on his birthday and spoke with him for 30 plus mins. $500 for a 2 min shout out is absurd. No parent is spending $500 on their kid for that, no adult would be feeling that bad that they would say "gee, I feel like shit, I'm going to pay $500 for a shout out from Roman Reigns"    I mean it's absolutely outrageous!!!! 

Honestly, the most outrageous thing for Reigns choosing $500 for the price tag was- when it was leaked pro wrestlers were doing Cameo, didn't Drake Maverick's charge $500 for Cameos as part of a plot point for his gimmick of stodgy jerk heel he was doing (for a "I get $500 to get out of bed in the morning, you want a piece of me you pay this much?")

While a top-name WWE star might be $500 worthy, it's kind of bad optics to use the same price of the "stuck up heel on this uses for heel heat" unironically as your pricetag.

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1 minute ago, (BP) said:

Meatballs was definitely sent up, and the message was received. 

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THis movie also changed me.

Running out immediately and renting this the day it became available and running home and watching it and in the first half hour a little voice in my head beginning to grow louder whispering:

"wait...but...maybe...okay...so movies can sometimes be...bad...and sometimes bad people can take something that is beautiful and destroy it...but why?"

 

By minute 57 it is louder...

 

"so...either incompetence or carelessness or they had bad intentions to start with.  What if most people most of the time are like this instead of the good way..."

 

By the closing credits I was running back to the store to buy the Repo Man soundtrack and was screaming out loud;

"HOW CAN YOU SAY WHAT MY BEST INTEREST IS? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT MY BEST INTEREST IS????"

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39 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said:

So now the beautiful Lexi Kauffman has joined Cameo.  If you thought David Hassellhoff's $300 price was steep, move over because Lexi is charging $400!  That's almost $100 per foot of fury.  Not to be outdone... Roman Reigns is charging $500!!  Yeah I'm sure his fan base really can afford the $500 for a 2 minute video!   

Mayweather is charing $1,000.

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1 hour ago, elizium said:

Somehow the topic of clothing came up in the wrestling thread and one guy piped up, saying that when he was 21 he threw out all his t-shirts, jeans, etc. and replaced them with polo shirts and khaki pants because it was time to "dress like an adult."

I totally remember that. My reaction was that this is a special kind of weirdo that has not yet been recorded in the wild. 

One can definitely visualize Lesnar not knowing how to turn off the video screen and just throwing the computer at the wall instead. 

If you haven't seen the Tracy Smothers riot in IWA-MS you haven't lived. "Tracy... Tracy... TRACY! Oh goddammit..."

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53 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said:

So now the beautiful Lexi Kauffman has joined Cameo.  If you thought David Hassellhoff's $300 price was steep, move over because Lexi is charging $400!  That's almost $100 per foot of fury.  Not to be outdone... Roman Reigns is charging $500!!  Yeah I'm sure his fan base really can afford the $500 for a 2 minute video!   

Big E is $125 and it says he's done 419 videos. By my calculation that's over $52,000! 

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Is that the time Ian Rotten fined Bobby Eaton for being late to the start of a show (even though their shows were like 5 hours long) so the boys got pissed off at Ian for being a goof and gave them a "Fine Match" where they just laid in a side headlock until the crowd freaked out? Jamie Dundee talked about that in his infamous/legendary shoot interview but I've never actually seen it.

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It’s bugging me now that I am spacing on all the details but the all time best post around here was someone telling the story about how their grandfather pulled a Red Foxx and faked a heart attack because he wasn’t getting enough attention 

Shit I am going to have to search for that post tomorrow 

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Similar. Ian got on the mic and said he wasn't gonna pay Tracy that night unless he cut it out, which calmed him down. But then Bobby started it up again which told you they were working. 

The crowd believed it though, especially the fat guy who took his shirt off and burned himself with a cigar, and the "bitch with the bat" that swung on Tracy for getting too close. Looking at Tracy there, you can't really blame them. 

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51 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said:

Joel Gertner called my friend on his birthday and spoke with him for 30 plus mins. $500 for a 2 min shout out is absurd. No parent is spending $500 on their kid for that, no adult would be feeling that bad that they would say "gee, I feel like shit, I'm going to pay $500 for a shout out from Roman Reigns"    I mean it's absolutely outrageous!!!! 

They don’t have to do Cameo at all. I’m sure they’ve priced themselves at a price where it’s worth it for them to do it without having to do it too much. Roman’s was actually cheaper, and he bumped up the price, so I’m guessing he was getting too many at the previous price.

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Of all the things I've learned today, I'm most surprised we have a moral compass. I thought that was a rumor or something a person made up in the sleaze thread like someone shitting on glass tables.

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