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I don't think anyone necessarily wants to hear this from me, but in the midst of all of this nostalgia, I think this place has still really served a positive purpose in 2020. This has been my first and foremost home on the internet since 1999, give or take a year. That's more than half my life. Just the message board structure offers something that things like Facebook and Twitter and podcasts can't, a breadth and depth of community over multiple topics, where the commonality is more normative than topical. This has been a year of pandemic and scandal and recession and upheaval, both within our chosen hobbies and in the greater world. And you people are running around on each other's Animal Crossing islands or leaning into DEAN's resurgence in watching matches or listening to 1,001 songs together and suggesting supplements to one another or starting to put together the movies of the 2010s. 

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6 minutes ago, Log said:

When did the DVDVR board start?  Like the very beginning?

This is where my old many memory is a little hazy.

Nov 1999 is a mile marker since that is when the first 500 came out.

So the "latest" the board started was Nov 99 in conjunction with the 500. But I am 99.9% it was around earlier than that.

Most likely it was sometime in 1998 because Schneider and I were both recent college grads who had way to much free time and we convinced Dean to go along

I really should apologize for that.

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I've also been here since '99. I thought the "half my life" comment from Matt meant he was a youngin' until I did the math and realized that at 43 and 21 I'm about there too.

Anyway I like it here even though as the biggest minority on the site (a Republican) I kinda have to shake my head and move on from time to time when things get political...

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I have fond memories of "heads on a stake" and the short period of time where, I think Dean?, busted out "defend your life" where the person could defend themselves and if found worthy they would avoid a ban. I don't think the few people made to defend their lives avoided the ban.

The other thing I remember was when Winnipagan or someone started the photos thread. We jokingly had glitteratti vs team beafy. Anyway, I could swear a rule was created as a result of some folks body shaming and fat shaming others that if you didn't in turn show that you looked any better then you would get banned. That stopped the body and fat shaming pretty quickly.

My stupid ass dumb brain has such a hard time remembering stuff, but I for whatever reason remember a lot from this board going back to 1999 or 2000. With the original board, I always wondered what would stop someone from posting as someone else because it's not like you had an account or anything. You just entered your name with your post or reply. I'd like to think everyone stuck to the honor system pretty well.

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9 minutes ago, Craig H said:

I have fond memories of "heads on a stake" and the short period of time where, I think Dean?, busted out "defend your life" where the person could defend themselves and if found worthy they would avoid a ban. I don't think the few people made to defend their lives avoided the ban.

I remember when this happened. I thought, "Shit, I better start adding to the conversation." Years later and I'm still working on it.

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Yeah, 38 going on 39, so.....

Anyway, the touchstones I have are tricky, because I'm not sure if I was reading Workrate Reports (which I gravitated towards more than the actual DVDVRs since I have more of a point of reference at that age) in 98 or 99. I know I went to a Nitro in late 98 and read it but it might have been going back and reading t later. I went back and read through all the archives so it's hard to place. What I can place is that in my sophomore year of college (Fall 2000), I had to create a website for compsci2a and I compared ratings of PWI vs DVDVR 500 for Benoit/Rock/Sid and TAKA. I just looked at this thing for the first time in twenty+ years and it's pretty mortifying. So I'd been here for a bit by that point at least.

 

 

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I didn't decide I wanted to start posting about wrestling until around 2003 I think,  that's probably when I got a higher speed internet connection.  So that's probably around the time I made it here, one of the previous versions of the board.  I was so young then. 

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It saddens me no one has reminisced about DVDR IRC.  So much time killed at work hanging out in chat - no wonder that job from the late 90's no longer exists.

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Shit...I guess I have been here since ‘99, then (found my way from Shootangle, which I think was Zach Arnold’s site). And still do far more “lurkin’ and learning” than posting. I’m just glad I’ve never said anything dumb enough to be turned into a board meme. Just dumb enough to be ignored. Heh. 

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4 minutes ago, EVA said:

So, um, does anybody else remember when we had a porn subforum?

Reminder that that forum only exists during the period I was on hiatus

As did the sleaze thread.

Y'all are fucked when I am the moral compass around here

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1 hour ago, Matt D said:

I don't think anyone necessarily wants to hear this from me, but in the midst of all of this nostalgia, I think this place has still really served a positive purpose in 2020. This has been my first and foremost home on the internet since 1999, give or take a year. That's more than half my life. Just the message board structure offers something that things like Facebook and Twitter and podcasts can't, a breadth and depth of community over multiple topics, where the commonality is more normative than topical. This has been a year of pandemic and scandal and recession and upheaval, both within our chosen hobbies and in the greater world. And you people are running around on each other's Animal Crossing islands or leaning into DEAN's resurgence in watching matches or listening to 1,001 songs together and suggesting supplements to one another or starting to put together the movies of the 2010s. 

Yeah, there's a reason I've been here for most of the last 20+ years even though I only really followed wrestling for about 5 of those.  Not being active during the sleaze thread/porn forum era probably helped my longevity.

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24 minutes ago, Matt D said:

Yeah, 38 going on 39, so.....

Anyway, the touchstones I have are tricky, because I'm not sure if I was reading Workrate Reports (which I gravitated towards more than the actual DVDVRs since I have more of a point of reference at that age) in 98 or 99. I know I went to a Nitro in late 98 and read it but it might have been going back and reading t later. I went back and read through all the archives so it's hard to place. What I can place is that in my sophomore year of college (Fall 2000), I had to create a website for compsci2a and I compared ratings of PWI vs DVDVR 500 for Benoit/Rock/Sid and TAKA. I just looked at this thing for the first time in twenty+ years and it's pretty mortifying. So I'd been here for a bit by that point at least.

 

 

The actual DVDVRs were VERY important for expanding my fandom beyond WWF/WCW.  I learned about so many Japanese wrestlers from that.

My first exposure to a lot of 'other' wresting was the 3rd and 4th Schneider Comps.  I am always so happy to own all of those comps now.  I've cleared out a lot of my tapes and dvds, but I will never part with those.  

I think I've been around, off and on, since near the beginning of the board.  I was probably here very infrequently from about '01-'04, but I know I read the green board a ton when I moved and started a new job in 2005.  

Around '96-'97, I frequented some wrestling board, but can't remember which one for the life of me.  I'd always assumed it was this one.  On that board, I met these two brothers.  I can't remember their real names, but they posted as Tazplex and LaParka.  I went to a couple of IWA Mid South shows with them. One was here in Louisville seven or eight years before I'd move here.  They also made me my first tapes of ECW.  I nearly wore those things out. 

Things are slow at work today.  Thanks for taking me on this trip down memory lane.  This is fun.

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12 hours ago, Matt D said:

WWE has two ways of turning people. They do it with an angle or it just happens. Everything just loses its sharpness in the end. Kabuki Warriors were heels a few months ago. Bliss/Cross were heels before that, etc. Part of me is morbidly curious what happens if they don't turn Sasha face on Bayley and the act, in its current incarnation with Karen/Bayley, just sort of ends up as a face act by attrition. 

Not that you’re wrong, but they do some the groundwork for those out of nowhere turns on the YouTube backstage interviews. For example, Nikki Cross laid the groundwork for teaming up with Bliss on those, but since it was never on TV it appeared out of nowhere. That said, it seems more like the talent use that avenue to set things up rather than something actively used by the writers/producers.

Other DVDVR memories include sponsoring a MMA fighter and my former DVDVR Law posters Sven and DevinIntervention.

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So basically RIPPA is the George Bailey of the DVDVR forum. Without him Bedford Falls is all dancing girls and chaste single librarians.

I've been lurking the DVDVR for a while now. I never did figure out what that whole Foghat thing was about.

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9 minutes ago, lostinube said:

I've been lurking the DVDVR for a while now. I never did figure out what that whole Foghat thing was about.

Dean and Schneider hatched the idea to break into factions for 10 issues in the build up for DVDVR 100 because you know by 1999 factions weren't played out or anything.

I legit think one of the groups was Foghat because Dean had just heard "Slow Ride" on the radio

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11 hours ago, Eivion said:

If I recall the big thing with Shayna/Dakota couple theory is that Shayna's father mentioned Shayna bringing Dakota home with her on one of the holidays.

Tumblr people have also documented biking and camping trips that have shown up on both's social media at the same time, them working out in the same home gym, posts from the around same time at the same backyard pool, and Shayna showing up on Dakota's Twitch and even using Dakota's set-up to do a segment on The Bump. Internet sleuths seem to have a good deal of circumstantial evidence and both seem happy enough to encourage the speculation. AFAIK, they've dropped more hints online than Seth and Becky or Mox and Renee. 

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I could swear that Shayna brought Dakota to her parent's house for Thanksgiving because Dakota posted about how good it felt to be welcomed or something along those lines.

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18 minutes ago, JonnyLaw said:

Other DVDVR memories include sponsoring a MMA fighter and my former DVDVR Law posters Sven and DevinIntervention.

Oh shit, I had forgotten about that!  I think I kicked in $5 for it.

 

Pivoting to actual wrestling does anyone have the 12/6/2002 Tenryu/Tenta vs Mutoh/Animal match that they could upload?  It was on youtube but the account got nuked.

 

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To expand on DZ's post, WWE or Facebook or both looks to have inadvertently spoiled the match gimmick with a graphic on Facebook.

@D.Z may want to consider spoilering his post, but I'm not sure how many people even give a crap.

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