SirSmUgly Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 The Demos are great when you want a competitive semi-main, but give me the Road Warriors all day, every day when I want to see five minutes of a dominant tag team eating up their opponents. When they turned heel in 1988 and started murdering teams, honestly, I enjoyed that better than anything the Demos have ever done. And I like Demolition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 My problem at the time was ”but it’s the masked superstar and Khrusher Khrushchev” in my teenage anti-WWF “gimmick repackaging” dislike mindset. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zimbra said: Was Tajiri the first to wear the trash bag pants? That was definitely a thing for a while. I feel like a bunch of ECW guys had them. Chris Chetti and I think Nova may have experimented with them at one point. The case could be made for some of Sabu's stuff but that's cheating . I remember a trash bag short variant trend in WWE for a while in the 00s with Miz, Kendrick/London and others Edited June 14, 2020 by Zakk_Sabbath Actually, what about Mike Quackenbush? I feel like I saw pics of him rocking them in PWI a year or two before Tajiri switched away from the blue trunks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) In the late 90s, quack was wearing a cloth single, t shirts underneath and pants. I don’t think the shiny pants until a few years later. Edited June 14, 2020 by odessasteps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: I feel like a bunch of ECW guys had them. Chris Chetti and I think Nova may have experimented with them at one point. The case could be made for some of Sabu's stuff but that's cheating . I remember a trash bag short variant trend in WWE for a while in the 00s with Miz, Kendrick/London and others I only remember Nova with the comic book bodysuits in ECW but you may well be right. I had forgotten that Chris Chetti existed so you may be right there, as well. Like Mark said I don't think Quack started wearing them until 2000-01 or so. I guess if we want to get real technical EZ Money/Jason Jett had a huge influence since he made gear for a bunch of the ECW and northeast indy guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 You can't talk trashbag pants without talking Chris Hero. Of course, ROH had its own trashbag pants faction with Special K. Jack Evans is another I remember wearing trashbag pants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Chris Hamrick wore the baggy pleather pants with a sleeveless pleather shirt in his ECW run. First I remember seeing it. 98ish. Maybe 99. But it's pleather, not trash bags lol. I feel like so many indy guys went that way because of Tajiri getting that sick sound off his kicks, slapping the pleather. Annnddddd one of the most influential wrestlers of all time... Rey Mysterio started wearing them in his WWE run. And most everyone on the indys wanted to be Rey when they started. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I had forgotten about Hamrick's pleather get-up. It was just the right kind of trashy for how sleazy he looked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Chris Hamrick wore the baggy pleather pants with a sleeveless pleather shirt in his ECW run. First I remember seeing it. 98ish. Maybe 99. But it's pleather, not trash bags lol. I feel like so many indy guys went that way because of Tajiri getting that sick sound off his kicks, slapping the pleather. Annnddddd one of the most influential wrestlers of all time... Rey Mysterio started wearing them in his WWE run. And most everyone on the indys wanted to be Rey when they started. I thought Rey y HBK started wearing the baggy pants to hide their knee braces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Meltzer says that AJ Styles blamed Paul Heyman for Gallows & Anderson being fired and that was a reason why he was moved to Smackdown. Fucking hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Considering how many of the small-time workers used pleather pants, it's more of a question if it counts as inspiring for a look. If you're going for shindy workers there, every small-time indie in the world has at least one "local drug dealer who owned a trampoline, buys pants at Hot Topic and has a sheer mesh shirt", but since most of those guys will never leave their local VFW hall, it doesn't exactly make Jeff Hardy particularly inspirational. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Chris Hamrick wore the baggy pleather pants with a sleeveless pleather shirt in his ECW run. First I remember seeing it. 98ish. Maybe 99. But it's pleather, not trash bags lol. I feel like so many indy guys went that way because of Tajiri getting that sick sound off his kicks, slapping the pleather. Annnddddd one of the most influential wrestlers of all time... Rey Mysterio started wearing them in his WWE run. And most everyone on the indys wanted to be Rey when they started. Good call I think I might've mixed him up with some of the other dudes I mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I think we are all forgetting on how influential the HBK character was in the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 For many bad reasons, first as a wrestler, now as an agent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SorceressKnight said: Considering how many of the small-time workers used pleather pants, it's more of a question if it counts as inspiring for a look. If you're going for shindy workers there, every small-time indie in the world has at least one "local drug dealer who owned a trampoline, buys pants at Hot Topic and has a sheer mesh shirt", but since most of those guys will never leave their local VFW hall, it doesn't exactly make Jeff Hardy particularly inspirational. MIKAMI feels real triggered right now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 MIKAMI's just gutted that his ladder got more over than he did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 The Hardy Boyz definitely popularized that mallpunk look, if not pioneered it. The took a (suburban) street look to the ring as an integral part of thier gimmick and lo, a thousand ballchain choker/baggy pants/fishnet forearm sleeves were bought and worn in rings from VFW halls to The Big Two. - RAF 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP Steve Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 11 hours ago, odessasteps said: My problem at the time was ”but it’s the masked superstar and Khrusher Khrushchev” in my teenage anti-WWF “gimmick repackaging” dislike mindset. This. The gimmick seemed like a poorly conceived rip-off and the costumes and makeup were so cheesy that I had a hard time getting into Demolition, even knowing they were better in-ring than the Roadies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 3 hours ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said: The Hardy Boyz definitely popularized that mallpunk look, if not pioneered it. The took a (suburban) street look to the ring as an integral part of thier gimmick and lo, a thousand ballchain choker/baggy pants/fishnet forearm sleeves were bought and worn in rings from VFW halls to The Big Two. - RAF I can’t tell you how jarring it was the first time they came out dressed like every guy in my fifth grade class. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 5 hours ago, DangerMark said: MIKAMI's just gutted that his ladder got more over than he did. In defense, that also takes away the inherent "this guy totally only got booked on the show because he's selling everyone else on the card drugs afterwards" vibe of the fake Hardyz. Much like Salvador Dali, DDT doesn't need drugs. They are drugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMark Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Who needs drugs when you had an avatar of the snake god running round mind controlling everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 This is so well made, I was dying when HBK appeared. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 3 hours ago, LP Steve said: This. The gimmick seemed like a poorly conceived rip-off and the costumes and makeup were so cheesy that I had a hard time getting into Demolition, even knowing they were better in-ring than the Roadies. I always thought the Powers of Pain was more of a Road Warriors knock off than Demolition. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said: The Hardy Boyz definitely popularized that mallpunk look, if not pioneered it. The took a (suburban) street look to the ring as an integral part of thier gimmick and lo, a thousand ballchain choker/baggy pants/fishnet forearm sleeves were bought and worn in rings from VFW halls to The Big Two. - RAF I'm 32, so I was in public schools for the majority of their run, and I can't co-sign this enough. There are kids I know that grew up to be tattoo artists/piercers, musicians, skate instructors and things like that and it's crazy to think how much of their real actual lives/personalities were shaped by the fact that we all loved those guys from 1999-2002 (and credit to Lita too, she was a huge part of the package whether you were a boy who had a crush on her, or a girl who wanted to be like her). Definitely going to be fondly reminiscing today about cutting up my dad's old dress socks, slipping my arms in, and hitting the backyards. Edit @(BP) I think we're around the same age, you hit the nail on the head Edited June 14, 2020 by Zakk_Sabbath 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 The Hardyz were mallpunk? I always thought they were candy popping raver kids. The brief time they had with Michael "PS" Hayes when he got his edge back and became their manager was one of my most favorite things... and man, Hayes actually pulled off that Hardyz look. Lita with the whale-tail though... man I still have dreams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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