Dolfan in NYC Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Things are nuts right now. Be kind, and if you can't be kind, be civil. Wrestling is a fun distraction from what's going on, but remember there are a lot more important things going on in the world. Enjoy June. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I've been using my furlough time to work through all the WCW Clash and PPVs up to when Hogan comes in. I'm at 1990 and I tell you one thing, god bless Vince McMahon for reigning Jim Ross' commentary in regarding going on about wrestlers having degrees and what sport they played. Sheesh. One bonus is it's become a running joke between me and my missus now, so if we're watching a sitcom I'll start making up some bollocks about an actors collegiate background 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Don't know if this made it into last month's thread but Chris DeJoseph, who'd recently been promoted to SmackDown Head Writer was fired on Friday afternoon. It was apparently a disciplinary measure. He'd been with MLW until he got rehired by WWE in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, BurningBeard said: I've been using my furlough time to work through all the WCW Clash and PPVs up to when Hogan comes in. I'm at 1990 and I tell you one thing, god bless Vince McMahon for reigning Jim Ross' commentary in regarding going on about wrestlers having degrees and what sport they played. Sheesh. One bonus is it's become a running joke between me and my missus now, so if we're watching a sitcom I'll start making up some bollocks about an actors collegiate background The current wrestling in joke between me and the gf is imitating Otis saying “oooh yeah, Money in the Bank” from right after he won the briefcase anytime we manage to save a few bucks here and there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 As far as Jim Ross goes, partly he's always been very defensive of the legitimacy of wrestlers as proper pro athletes, and partly he was trying to contrast the WCW roster of legit guys with other companies that were stuffed with outlandish characters and unbelievable gimmicks. Christopher DeJoseph had an on screen role with DX, didn't he? Naked dancing fat bloke type of deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 The current wrestling in-joke at my house is that we're the store brand Cody & Brandi (since we're an interracial couple, but not exactly in what you would call 'ring shape') 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Ross definitely picked that habit up and had it ingrained into him by being around Bill Watts so much. Watts realized he couldn't compete for production value with the cartoonish WWF so he would spend a lot of airtime playing up how these were legit athletes and playing up the background. It was a perfectly sensible ploy to differentiate the products, but of course eventually when it's being done all the time forever it wears very thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Especially when you consider that kayfabe was still on life support at the time. If you could persuade the fans that this is the real wrestling, not like that fake WWF stuff with it's evil Arabs and savages... probably worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 If you listen to the folks still around from the territory era, many of them have the “wrestling as sports” mentality, especially those who were former athletes and were part of the Eddie Graham tree (watts, Fuller, ...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) It always felt counterproductive to me, making wrestling feel like a sport for guys who couldn't make it in other sports. When the best Ross can say about Vader is that he had a cup of coffee with the Rams practice squad, and here he is winning the world title, what's that say in kayfabe about wrestling s a sport? "WCW: Where the Washouts Play." Say what you want about Gorilla Monsoon, at least when he discussed Jim Neidhart's football background, he'd say that Nedihart quit football because it wasn't violent enough or something. Edited June 1, 2020 by Technico Support 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 JR always seemed to lean real heavy on certain guys' athletic backgrounds while ignoring others. Like he wouldn't (and still won't) shut up about Jake Hager yet I can't recall him ever really pushing Dolph Ziggler's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Conversely, guys from the earlier eras that had a choice picked wrestling since it was more lucrative than real sports like football (gagne, wahoo, ernie). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Back in the days when pro football players still got day jobs in the offseason! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) Oh I totally get the concept behind JR pushing the athletic and collegiate backgrounds as a way of (further) legitimising a wrestler but in the age of binging and him making the same points every event it’s like “Brian Pillman. Wedge buster. Yadayadayada, bloody hell, give it a rest!” Edited June 1, 2020 by BurningBeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Back in the days when pro football players still got day jobs in the offseason! Bronco Nagurski sold you an Oldsmobile! Or someone. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Things are nuts right now. Be kind, and if you can't be kind, be civil. Wrestling is a fun distraction from what's going on, but remember there are a lot more important things going on in the world. Enjoy June. I dunno man. I've been pretty fucking depressed. I work in mental health, and while I have historically been exceptionally skilled for the past 20+ yrs at keeping the trauma from coming home with me, I've been on work-from-home status since this COVID shit, so the trauma of those I work with has latched on to my surroundings. Everyone I talk to is terrified, at best, paranoid and panicky and suicidal at worst. It seems like all I want to do is sleep. But I like this place. I enjoy coming here. I appreciate you guys making this a pretty safe haven for none of that shit from out *waves hand* THERE to get in. Be safe and healthy, all y'all. Even the ones I got on block; just because you have shit opinions don't mean I want anything to happen to you. 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Don't know if this made it into last month's thread but Chris DeJoseph, who'd recently been promoted to SmackDown Head Writer was fired on Friday afternoon. It was apparently a disciplinary measure. He'd been with MLW until he got rehired by WWE in December. I'm seeing unsubstantiated reports of some kind of inappropriate comment to Vince. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious. Who even was the last guy to get in trouble with Vince directly, Titus with the stupid arm grab thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Potential Raw spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 This is a RAW spoiler (but different from above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 God, that title has been around for a year? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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(BP) Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, PetrolCB said: God, that title has been around for a year? 24/7/365 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I figure we’ll probably find out the reason for DeJoseph’s firing this week on AEW during Brodie Lee’s promo. I’d love to know where Vince’s “unprofessional” bar is set these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Ultimo Necro said: I figure we’ll probably find out the reason for DeJoseph’s firing this week on AEW during Brodie Lee’s promo. I’d love to know where Vince’s “unprofessional” bar is set these days. I'm pretty sure Dynamite this week was taped last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, PetrolCB said: Sid v Fiend at Mania confirmed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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