Infinit Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 That LMS went on for 6 years. The best things about the FFH was "Obsession" and Vince puppet saying it was "such good shit". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 According to Twitter, so it may or may not be accurate, the only match in Wrestlemania history longer than the Edge/Orton Last Man Standing match tonight was. . . Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I think what this weekend shows is that if done well cinematic wrestling with a big budget is a viable thing. I think it can be more than a one off... However, I think it should be done sparingly. Was John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt or The Undertaker vs. AJ Styles going to be good matches in front of a live crowd? Hell no... so this totally worked for them. Does Cesaro/Bryan/Zayn/Gulak/Nakamura need to have a cinematic presence? Hell no.. their characters wouldn't fit and that's not their strengths, they are great wrestlers so you have to make this choice all dependent on the characters you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Oddly enough, it poured all day in Tampa so Mania somewhat escaped that experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maciej Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I'm trying to remember the last time before that last man standing I so viscerally hated a match and struggling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I dug the fatal 5 way match a lot from a storytelling standpoint. I liked the little Team B.A.D. bits in there and the Sasha/Bayley story is compelling. Sasha reminded me on Owen Hart at WM X where he was on the ramp as she was tonight looking on at Bret... I HOPE they are slated for SummerSlam. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gonzo said: According to Twitter, so it may or may not be accurate, the only match in Wrestlemania history longer than the Edge/Orton Last Man Standing match tonight was. . . Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 12 Boy wait until Wrestlemania 40 when Cole vs Gargano vs Ciampa goes 75 minutes on the first fall 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I just can't imagine any justification for the LMS match being that long. Edit it down by fifteen minutes (and mute 2/3 of Orton's uncomfortably-close-to-porn sounds) and you'd have a thoroughly decent brawl with a couple of great spots that proved Edge can still handle big bumps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Gonzo said: According to Twitter, so it may or may not be accurate, the only match in Wrestlemania history longer than the Edge/Orton Last Man Standing match tonight was. . . Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Wrestlemania 12 From what I see, it edged out the WM2K four way by about 11 seconds. Edited April 6, 2020 by Brian Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I popped HUGE for Obsession. Was it "good" or "bad"? Who knows? I definitely was entertained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Honestly, about halfway through the LMS match I started reading and I completely forgot about it until I looked up and Edge was about to win. Some matches obviously suffered from no live crowd but man you wonder what this would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Cena Vs. Wyatt felt like an IWC thread come to life. I think they went way too overboard. If Taker Vs. AJ was part one, this was like the really bad eighth sequel of a horror franchise. Edited April 6, 2020 by LoneWolf&Subs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, w. josh said: I just can't imagine any justification for the LMS match being that long. Edit it down by fifteen minutes (and mute 2/3 of Orton's uncomfortably-close-to-porn sounds) and you'd have a thoroughly decent brawl with a couple of great spots that proved Edge can still handle big bumps. The thing that makes it worse is that people are saying that what we saw was actually clipped. If that is true the legit match may have been an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Loved the Firefly Funhouse Stuff. And surely with every other Wyatt feud ending with a heel or face turn, Cena as the first challenger for Drew or Braun could be kinda fun. Really liked the opening match. The LMS was a great way of reconsidering how long self-isolation really is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Infinit said: That LMS went on for 6 years. More like the 9 years Edge missed. That match reminded me of Triple H/Shawn Michaels 47 minutes Hell in a Cell match and that's really bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Great Justice Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Need multiple rewatches, some detective work and DVDVR LOST thread-like discussion after that FFH match. Edited April 6, 2020 by For Great Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, kafkonia said: Two world title matches, and what, five moves? Goldberg is old and should never have come back - what's Brock's excuse? Fuck you, he has Vince's money? Charlotte/Rhea was really good but Charlotte winning was the wrong choice unless the plan is for Rhea to get her win back in front of an actual audience. The other women's match was also solid though I thought they were going to have Bayley and Sasha as the last two in order to finally start up a feud. It was good to see Drew win the title. The match was about what I was expecting in terms of length and quality. One layer of wrestling hell will involve watching that LMS match on repeat. The Firefly Funhouse was like some Adult Swim bumper reject. Say what you will about the Boneyard match, at least it did what it set out to do. This was just like an extra long Bray promo. They should have just gone full absurd with it and had the two of them wrestle as puppets or cartoon characters. Hell, their alter egos in a Southpaw episode would have been better. The rest of the show was basically an episode of Raw. Edited April 6, 2020 by HumanChessgame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Night 1 was better. The main matches on night 2 under delivered or were Edge-Orton, forever, FOREVER, a benchmark on overindulgence despite the firefly funhouse match. Dug nWo Cena though. Motn was Ripley-Flair. MotW was Owens-Rollins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 well Charlotte/Rhea was as great as I hoped. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Hopefully WWE shows some restraint on the whole "Cinematic Wrestling" stuff. It's cool everyone once in a blue moon, but if WWE has shown anything is that they know how to cool dad something to death. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 So which of you jerks were excited to see Edge and Randy Orton again? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Edge trying to make up for 9 years of missed ring time in one night was agonizing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Really liked the Firefly Funhouse and Ripley/Charlotte apart from Charlotte winning. That's two WrestleMania matches she needed to lose, Asuka the other from WrestleMania XXXIV. There's a case for three with Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch at WrestleMania XXXII. Edited April 6, 2020 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, EVA said: Edge trying to make up for 9 years of missed ring time in one night was agonizing. 14 minutes ago, The Natural said: More like the 9 years Edge missed. That match reminded me of Triple H/Shawn Michaels 47 minutes Hell in a Cell match and that's really bad. ;). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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