MORELOCK Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Do indie wrestlers want to get noticed by him or smarks on the Internet? Because the later seems the more likely candidates. That's just my point. It's not like Cornette talking shit has derailed anyone's career. If anything it's the opposite. Basically every indie wrestler he has ever ranted about is more popular than they have ever been. Cornette talking shit about you is essentially free promotion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just don’t bring it up that meme with Manabu Nakanishi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I don't even know what you're saying. I didn't address Nakanishi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: You snap their spines, and break their necks. He would do that and sometimes he’d do the Argentinian backbreaker into a neckbreaker. Considering the Hercules Cutter was his finisher, he'd do it a lot more than Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 13 hours ago, paintedbynumbers said: it's very unclear which is why it's so strange. She tweeted a post explaining due to a post she made as a white female 10 years ago she is quitting all of her wrestling duties. She says she changed as a person and blah blah blah. I wonder what the tweet was too and who called her out. Surprisingly I didn't see that. In a tweet, she bashed someone who was a ring announcer once for a show three years ago. That apparently prompted friends of said person to dig up the tweets and accuse her of hypocrisy given how connected she is to the “wrestling is for everyone” crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Did they really pull a Hogan in WCW and really bring Cain in just so Brock could avenge a loss from UFC? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Web Conn said: Did they really pull a Hogan in WCW and really bring Cain in just so Brock could avenge a loss from UFC? I don't think so. Going back to the start, I think they had bigger plans for Cain, but Cain needing surgery after the match, creative not being very creative, and then not using Cain in the Royal Rumble pretty much killed anything they were going to do with him. If Cain could cut a promo then I could see him sticking around, but he can't. He's an injury risk and is probably better used in 6 man tags in Mexico or something. Or if anything, if he really wants to learn, I hope he goes somewhere like MLW instead of ROH or AEW. And as far as draws go, I think Daniel Cormier would be a far better choice to bring in. He's a life long wrestling fan, I could see him learning a worked style, he can talk, but unfortunately he's pretty attached to coaching wrestling, is in his 40s now, and is looking to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, MORELOCK said: I don't know if anyone like that posts here - the two schools of thought that seem to exist here are "Fuck out-of-touch Cornette for not liking Kenny Omega's matches" and "Cornette is extremely knowledgeable and entertaining when he finally stops ranting." Why can't both be true: I think his takes on modern wrestling are usually badly out of touch but still think he is brilliant and as knowledgeable about wrestling and it's history as anyone you can name. A weird example of how his ideas of logic in wrestling influenced how I think: at one of the Tournament of Death shows years back they had people setting up all this incredibly dangerous stuff with no gloves or protection whatsoever and even worse the referee had no sort of protection (don't think he was even wearing gloves) I turned to a friend and wondered why they didn't have everyone in protective gear (like you would see in FMW with the referee wearing a hazmat suit) to sell just how dangerous the match was and he replied "You gave this thing way more thought than they did". Edited April 28, 2020 by sabremike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert S Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Phil4126 said: Is this the most useless "run" anyone has ever had? Dude comes in for a two minute tapout and never seen again. I know he was hurt and all but WOW Someone should do a Braden-Walker-style best of DVD cover art for Cain Velasquez. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, sabremike said: Why can't both be true: I think his takes on modern wrestling are usually badly out of touch but still think he is brilliant and as knowledgeable about wrestling and it's history as anyone you can name. A weird example of how his ideas of logic in wrestling influenced how I think: at one of the Tournament of Death shows years back they had people setting up all this incredibly dangerous stuff with no gloves or protection whatsoever and even worse the referee had no sort of protection (don't think he was even wearing gloves) I turned to a friend and wondered why they didn't have everyone in protective gear (like you would see in FMW with the referee wearing a hazmat suit) to sell just how dangerous the match was and he replied "You gave this thing way more thought than they did". His knowledge of the past is appreciated but his opinions on the current are out of touch. Just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: You snap their spines, and break their necks. He would do that and sometimes he’d do the Argentinian backbreaker into a neckbreaker. You snap your fingers, you snap your neck. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Also I got to find that match in the gif. That’s Norton being held back down there. Norton Vs. Nakanishi with all his new fancy moves is a match I want to see. Don't think the two fought each other that often. They did have a short IWGP Title match in 98. They were also a team for a brief period in 05. Fought Nakamura and Tanahashi for the tag titles. 3 hours ago, tbarrie said: So... you just let them out of the torture rack, then german suplex them? When done well its in a fluid motion or their feet never hit the ground like Utami did with AZM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, Craig H said: I don't think so. Going back to the start, I think they had bigger plans for Cain, but Cain needing surgery after the match, creative not being very creative, and then not using Cain in the Royal Rumble pretty much killed anything they were going to do with him. If Cain could cut a promo then I could see him sticking around, but he can't. He's an injury risk and is probably better used in 6 man tags in Mexico or something. Or if anything, if he really wants to learn, I hope he goes somewhere like MLW instead of ROH or AEW. And as far as draws go, I think Daniel Cormier would be a far better choice to bring in. He's a life long wrestling fan, I could see him learning a worked style, he can talk, but unfortunately he's pretty attached to coaching wrestling, is in his 40s now, and is looking to retire. Cain could've done well in Mexico and Chicano heavy markets, which is hilarious considering one of the bad takes people had when he was in UFC as champ was he couldn't become a great Mexican-American draw because his Spanish wasn't good. Ryan Garcia in boxing and then Cain's little mini run in AAA proves that was a dumbass notion. I think if Cormier was several years younger and didn't have the bad back he eventually got fixed, Cain and DC could have been a great tag team in pro wrestling cause Cormier can be the talker and would be super motivated. Also, they could have struck a deal to show footage of Cormier ragdolling Josh Barnett and Dan Henderson like he was Vader against some WCW jobber back in the day. That could have worked and been the modern day, more legit Varsity Club (Cain could be in Arizona State colors and DC in Oklahoma State colors). However, Cain didn't really have a shot without Cormier in WWE where they just brought him in so nobody else could get him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Jim Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Raise your hand if this is the first time you've heard of Step Stool Sarah. (Seriously, that ring name sounds like a weird BDSM fetish gimmick.) 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Argentine into German has to be something Sekimoto or Okayabashi has done before, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Argentine into German has to be something Sekimoto or Okayabashi has done before, right? I believe so, they are Nakanishi marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Southside Jim said: Raise your hand if this is the first time you've heard of Step Stool Sarah. (Seriously, that ring name sounds like a weird BDSM fetish gimmick.) I saw her one time while checking stuff on IWTV and was curious about her though didn't know her name. It's a weird gimmick name though that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Jim Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Rewatching Matt Taven vs. Tracy Williams, has there ever been a worse announcing team than Ian Riccaboni, Colt Cabana, and Jay Lethal? Lethal and Cabana desperately trying to talk over each other, and Riccaboni with his forced "bombastic" announcing. And Jay does not have a future in announcing ahead of him when he finally retires. Honestly, I would rather listen to Bruce Prichard, Mike McGuirk, and Pete Doherty call a match than these three. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Wrestling fans in Puerto Rico are the best. 2019 and they still get super worked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Announce team content? Ok, let's old school it: Best Announce Team: Short lived and obscure, but the most fun I've ever had listening to announcers talk was Gordon Solie & Lord Steven Regal on WCW Worldwide. Worst Announce Team: WWE's gets progressively worse as Vince adds more foibles and bans more phrases, forces people to repeat taglines over and over. Also a lot of their announcers are legitimately awful people (except Mauro). So some sort of Lawler/ Graves/ Layfield / Ranallo/ Cole combination would be the worst. Most Overrated Announce Team: Lots of people have fond memories of the Ross & Lawler duo. False memory syndrome. They sucked the whole time. Most Underrated Announce Team: Schiavone & Ventura. Tony was really good before he became a Monday Night Wars overseller. Jesse was always good with any partner, but his WWF era partners like Gorilla and Vince were pretty annoying and not as much fun as Tony. Honourable Mentions: Personally, I never could get into Bobby Heenan. Probably because the first time I heard him it was in WCW and he was clearly only there for the paycheck at that point. Seemed bored and lazy, when he was sober. But loads of you lads grew up on him and have fond memories, so I'll give him an honourable mention to acknowledge his existence. Kent Walton and Joey Styles were both best as solo announcers, not as part of announce teams. Although Joey outed himself as a massive cunt eventually. Kent Walton didn't. He just became a softcore porn producer instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 A lot of WWE announcers are legitimately awful people? What the hell are you talking about? The only one you could really make the case for is Lawler. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Joey Styles was atrocious. If you are going to discredit everyone's work based on things they've done, said or believe outside of the ring (as you seem to be doing), then pro-wrestling may not be the thing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a32236195/wwe-wrestlers-coronavirus-essential-business/ Esquire article on WWE's goings-on around Covid-19. The author interviewed Deonna Purrazzo and David Starr. Not much in there that folks here won't know, but it's mainstream coverage of the company that is very critical of the company's handling of this situation. Edited April 28, 2020 by Cristobal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Words of wisdom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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