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Super ShowDown III - 2/27/2020


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Let's not forget, this company legit couldn't figure out how the fuck to use Goldberg in 2003.

Vince fucking Russo was incapable of fucking up Goldberg (though Lord knows he tried his damnedest with that "wouldn't go up for the powerbomb" worked shoot) but McMahon did it effortlessly.

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Man, you guys are nuts.

I've got 2 boys (13yo & 11yo) and they fucking LOVE Goldberg.

It started with his entrance in 2k19 with the police escort "to make sure he didn't hurt anyone" and has continued to grow as I show them stuff on the network.

As much as they like the Fiend, Goldberg is a damned super hero, even today.

I don't understand why there isn't more talk about AJ being put down by a chokeslam. One. What's the Mania match if Taker has already pinned him with a single chokeslam?

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That’s so true about kids and Goldberg. My nephew also saw Goldberg’s entrance in one of those 2K games and he wouldn’t shut up about it. Goldberg’s mystique is alive and well with little kids. If there’s anyone they can buy beating The Fiend, it’s the guy who beat Brock Lesnar in a minute, who has highlights on the Network of him giving The Big Show a Jackhammer and who always shows up on tv and destroys everybody.

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21 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

I’m just going to say this. But reading the results, and knowing what shows kill in prime time over at CBS. Putting the belt on Goldberg, with a young people supporting cast is pretty much the style of cast the competition employs. 

Hell, isn't Goldberg a recurring character on one of those shows?

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1 hour ago, L_W_P said:

I don't understand why there isn't more talk about AJ being put down by a chokeslam. One. What's the Mania match if Taker has already pinned him with a single chokeslam?

That's easy. "I already wrestled, I was prepared for Rey, not Undertaker. It doesn't count. Etc" standard heel stuff. Toss in the threat of the OC helping, boom.

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8 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

Hell, isn't Goldberg a recurring character on one of those shows?

He is? Well listen, if you can’t beat them, join them.
 

I’ve said in the past that some wrestling companies(NWA) should go after those demos. I mean those shows are still on the air, so they must be making a profit. That shit isn’t for me, but that’s a lot of viewers in retirement homes that you could potentially be vying for.

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Just now, ChrisPBacon said:

And to think, Terry Funk was the 53 year old hardcore legend seemingly on his deathbed 23 years ago, as he outlasted two others and then best Raven at Barely Legal to win the Ecw world title.  Funk got unanimous praise, unlike Goldberg.

Knowing this board’s tastes, they’d want to see Funk vs Roman because he still throws beautiful punches.

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27 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said:

He is? Well listen, if you can’t beat them, join them.
 

I’ve said in the past that some wrestling companies(NWA) should go after those demos. I mean those shows are still on the air, so they must be making a profit. That shit isn’t for me, but that’s a lot of viewers in retirement homes that you could potentially be vying for.

I had to look it up now. He did an appearance in both 2018 and 19 on NCIS: Los Angeles.

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6 minutes ago, ComingToAmerica said:

I think we should move on to complaining about Ricochet. Seriously.

I mean, the only question was whether it was going to be a sub-two minute squash, or a semi-competitive six minute glorified squash. 

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1 hour ago, ChrisPBacon said:

And to think, Terry Funk was the 53 year old hardcore legend seemingly on his deathbed 23 years ago, as he outlasted two others and then best Raven at Barely Legal to win the Ecw world title.  Funk got unanimous praise, unlike Goldberg.

Funk only won the triple threat match due to Stevie superkicking Sandman and Raven was soundly kicking his ass in the main event before Dreamer ddt'ed Raven. Funk then got a fluke small package to win. That's a lot different than no-selling the top heel's finish and using a modified hiptoss to win the title in under 5 minutes.

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4 hours ago, Brian Fowler said:

I mean, the only question was whether it was going to be a sub-two minute squash, or a semi-competitive six minute glorified squash. 

I'll take the latter thanks.

Almost 15 years ago, I saw Samoa Joe vs Spud in a 3 minute match with 1 hope spot, which lead to a really good near fall. There is a way to do this stuff.

(There was an issue with the video camera and it never got released. Oh and Spud/Maverick has no memory of the match, due to getting a concussion after about 10 seconds. It was good though lol)

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The tactical nihilism of the IWC couldn't be more on show here. The same ones that are outraged and complain the most about 53 year old Goldberg winning the title are the same ones first in line to call people stick-in-the-mud and assholes for questioning women beating men for world titles. But some of you aren't ready for that conversation. I guess wrestling is only fake and a performance art when it suits some people. 

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If you're barking at me, I'm not particularly into women beating men for world titles but don't recall being in line to call people on any opinion regarding it.

I am fine with wrestling being performing art, but if it's shit art then it's shit innit?

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7 hours ago, (BP) said:

Poor Edge. The year he picks to come out of retirement for a Mania match he’s going to be told to keep his most over move to a minimum so Reigns and Goldberg can spam it 12 times in 7 minutes. He’s got the worst spear of the three of them, but still. 


If Goldberg wrestling means Edge will have to keep his spears to a minimum, then please sign me up for the neverending Goldberg championship reign. Goldberg at any age is a million times more credible than Edge ever has been.
 

5 hours ago, TheVileOne said:

Goldberg actually appearing live on Smackdown last week amounted to maybe about a handful of more viewers. He's not getting ratings up in a meaningful way. 

If Goldberg winning actually means Smackdown jumps up to Smackdown next week say five million viewers and doubles its key demo numbers, I would say you have a point.

However, the numbers since this Goldberg storyline started from what I can tell are negligible and I see no proof that Goldberg is having a positive impact on ratings and viewership.


You've been shown the proof and then moved the goalposts. We get it. Goldberg isn't for you. Doesn't make it a bad short-term business decision.

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9 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said:

Is Goldberg the only WCW act to be protected by Vince?

Someone has either forgotten (or hell, at this point, wasn’t around for) Goldberg wearing Goldust’s wig and all the surrounding outrage.

7 hours ago, (BP) said:

Poor Edge. The year he picks to come out of retirement for a Mania match he’s going to be told to keep his most over move to a minimum so Reigns and Goldberg can spam it 12 times in 7 minutes. He’s got the worst spear of the three of them, but still. 

IIRC, Edge has talked about the spear being a factor in his (almost) career ending neck injury, so this may be for the best.

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