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What is the greatest Sports game/series of All time?

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I don’t like the idea of series vs. individual games but that’s a minor complaint. 
 

Glaring omissions would be:

Super Monaco GP 2

Super Hang On

Road Rash

Ring King

Arch Rivals

Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs

Jordan vs. Bird or Dr. J vs. Bird

Rallisport Challenge (DICE)

Moto GP (Climax era)

Super Baseball 2020

Joe Montana Sportstalk Football

Worldwide Soccer 98

10 Yard Fight

World Series Baseball

Sega Rally

Ring King, Super Monaco GP2, and Arch Rivals should absolutely be in this.  I can see someone arguing Road Rash ain’t a sports game.

 

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On 1/13/2020 at 2:35 PM, odessasteps said:

If you include wrestling games (which I would have excluded), then Fire Pro, the Toukon Retsuden series and Giant Gram 2000 should be in there too. 🙂

might as well address the elephant in the room and give WCW some love.  WCW world tour and or Superbrawl Revenge

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Some good choices in there. I tried to think if Lakers vs Celtics and Team USA Basketball would count in the NBA EA series.

 

Trying to figure if we drop the wrestling games if the omissions can fit in.
 

Once we get a field laid out, I'll draw the matchups, if there's any interest in perhaps making a tournament forum.

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I would say by the nature of this being a wrestling forum, I would be okay with not allowing the wrestling games in the tournament, because I think there's an inherent bias there. Also there's something about putting, say, the SvR series next to these other games that feels... off.

EDIT: Also I ran this list by my brother who is WAY INTO SPORTS GAMES and is like unsure where we're coming down on racing games, specifically the DIRT franchise. I'll stand up for it if no one else will but yeah. Racing games seems like a slippery slope in general, because if Racing Games are in then F-Zero has to be in. Maybe we make that a motorsport thing where it's like gotta be a physically possible sport?

Edited by Lamp, broken circa 1988

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16 hours ago, SirFozzie said:

Some good choices in there. I tried to think if Lakers vs Celtics and Team USA Basketball would count in the NBA EA series.

 

Trying to figure if we drop the wrestling games if the omissions can fit in.
 

Once we get a field laid out, I'll draw the matchups, if there's any interest in perhaps making a tournament forum.

I personally wouldn't mind if we omitted the wrestling games and maybe did a separate tournament just for them.  There's more than enough there to warrant its own anyway.

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I think a lot of these are great, but I'd be voting for MLB The Show the whole way through. That's the best sports game I've ever played for gameplay, visuals, and just how much detail is included. I mean, they managed to work in the completely weird MLB rules for free agency, drafts, etc.

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Would've voted for NBA 2K before they basically went full board VC funbucks. Now I'm not so sure.

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Ok, updated: Removed the wrestling games and tried to add as many omissions as possible. I think we're close to locking down the field.

Seeds (16) (one per Pod of 4)

Madden
NFL 2K
NCAA Football (EA)
Football Manager
Front Page Sports Pro Football
NBA Jam
NBA 2K
NHL (EA)
MLB The Show
Punch-Out (Tyson/Super/Wii)
Mutant League Football
FIFA (EA)
Tecmo Bowl
Tony Hawk Pro Skater

F-Zero

Ring King


Non-Seed (48, Three per pod of 4)

Double Dribble
Micro League Baseball
Blades of Steel
Cyberball
Rocket League
Tony LaRussa Baseball
Front Office Football
High Heat Baseball
Earl Weaver Baseball
Nintendo World Cup
Epyx "Games" series (Summer/Winter/California)
Track and Field
OOTP Baseball
Baseball Stars
Indy 500 series (including the later nascar games they did)
Formula 1 Game series
RBI Baseball
Ken Griffey Jr Presents Major League Baseball
PGA Tour Golf/Tiger Woods
Everybody's Golf
Super Monaco GP 2
NFL Blitz/Blitz The League
NES Ice Hockey
UFC Undisputed series (includes EA MMA)
Arch Rivals
Super Spike Volleyball
Links Golf
Pro Evolution
10 Yard Fight
Virtua Tennis
Super Tennis (NES)
Front Page Sports Baseball Series
Pro Evolution Soccer
Baseball Stars Series
Baseball Simulator Series -
ExciteBike
RC Pro Am
Super Mega Baseball
Hardball
4th and Inches
NBA Live series (includes  Lakers vs Celtics etcetera)
Road Rash series
Knockout Kings - Fight Night Champions
Sensible Soccer
ABC Wide Wold of Sports Boxing
4D Boxing
Mario Kart Series

Super Baseball 2020

 

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On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2020 at 1:13 AM, Lamp, broken circa 1988 said:

if Racing Games are in

I would argue that if racing games are in, and it appears they are, then Micro Machines should be considered for entry. For me, every bit as important to that "frantic" feeling in arcade racers as RC Pro Am / Rock n Roll Racing or Championship Sprint / Ivan Stewart's Off Road.

And it can be a series entry or most of the games very easily stand on their own. I am a huge fan of all of the entries, but V3 for the PS1 holds a very special place in my heart for allowing me to use that stupid boomerang multitap and play 8 player, 4 controller multiplayer.

Also, how in the fuck do we have this list of 64 and MVP 2005 isn't on it? Until my GameCube memory card got corrupted by the Wii Connect 24 overheating problem, I kept playing through the entire Dynasty mode, which ran for 120 seasons. What a fucking great baseball game.

I'd probably go with Bases Loaded vs. RBI, but both of those games got pushed aside in my house for the official MLB NES game.

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Ivan Stewart's Off Road is fun to this day!!  I just played this on a mod the other night.  Easy to play a few hours and get lost in the game. 

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Ok,. barring extreme circumstances (like I screwed up and put in a game in twice (don't laugh, I found two that I had double-booked!)). here's is your field of 64. Seeds are assigned on an extremely quick eyeball test.

 

Seeds (16) (one per Pod of 4)

1 - Madden
2- NFL 2K
3- NCAA Football (EA)
4- NBA 2K
5- NHL (EA)
6- NBA Jam
7- F-Zero
8- Tecmo Bowl
9- FIFA (EA)
10 - MLB The Show 
11- Football Manager
12- Front Page Sports Pro Football
13 - Punch-Out (Tyson/Super/Wii)
14- Mutant League Football
15- Tony Hawk Pro Skater
16- Ring King

 

Non-seeded games (3 will go into each pod of 4 with a Seeded team)

Double Dribble
Micro League Baseball
Blades of Steel
Cyberball
Rocket League
Gran Turismo
Front Office Football
High Heat Baseball
Earl Weaver Baseball
Nintendo World Cup
Epyx "Games" series (Summer/Winter/California)
Track and Field
OOTP Baseball
Mutant League Hockey
Indy 500 series (including the later nascar games they did)
Formula 1 Game series
RBI Baseball
Ken Griffey Jr Presents Major League Baseball
PGA Tour Golf/Tiger Woods
Everybody's Golf
Super Monaco GP 2
NFL Blitz/Blitz The League
NES Ice Hockey
UFC Undisputed series (includes EA MMA)
Arch Rivals
Bases Loaded
Links Golf
Ivan Stewart's Off-Road Racing/Sprint series
10 Yard Fight
Virtua Tennis
Super Tennis (NES)
Front Page Sports Baseball Series
Pro Evolution Soccer
Baseball Stars Series
Baseball Simulator Series -
Micro Madness
RC Pro Am
Super Mega Baseball
Hardball
4th and Inches
NBA Live series (includes  Lakers vs Celtics etcetera)
Road Rash series
Knockout Kings - Fight Night Champions
Sensible Soccer
ABC Wide Wold of Sports Boxing
4D Boxing
Mario Kart Series
Super Baseball 2020

Edited by SirFozzie
DOUBLE BOOK IN THE SEEDS FOZ YOU IDIOT

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I used this site to bracket out the non-seeded teams, the team given a bye to the round of 32 on the bracket will play a seeded team) https://challonge.com/tournaments/bracket_generator?ref=eZmbBq8RMI

 

Here we go:

In the Madden Region

1  Madden Series vs Mutant League Hockey

Blades of Steel vs Front Office Football

4  F-Zero vs 4D Boxing

Indy 500 vs Track and Field

2  Tecmo Bowl vs Front Page Sports Baseball series

NBA Live (Including Lakers vs Celtics ETC) vs Everybody's Golf

3 FIFA (EA Series) vs  Pro Evolution Soccer 

Super Baseball 2020 vs Cyberball

 

In the NBA 2K Region

1 NBA 2K series vs PGA Tour Golf/Tiger Woods Series (EA)

NES Ice Hockey vs RBI Baseball

4 Punch Out!!! vs Ken Griffey Jr Presents Major League Baseball

Super Mega Baseball vs Hardball!

2 NHL Hockey Series (EA) vs Super Tennis (SNES)

Road Rash vs Rocket League

3 Front Page Sports Football series  vs Baseball Simulator 1.000 series

Mario Kart vs 10-yard Fight

 

In the NFL 2K Region

1 NFL 2K Series vs Double Dribble

Ivan Stewart's Off-Road Racing vs Bases Loaded

4 Tony Hawk Pro Skater Series vs Formula One Racing Series

Epyx "Games" series vs Gran Turismo

2 F-Zero vs 4th and Inches

Nintendo World Cup vs RC Pro Am

3 MLB The Show vs Sensible Soccer

NFL Blitz/Blitz The League series vs Baseball Stars series

 

And finally, in the NCAA Football Region

1 NCAA Football (EA Series) vs Micro League Baseball Series

ABC Wide World of Sports Boxing - Knockout Kings (EA)

4 Mutant League Football/Mutant Football League vs  UFC Undisputed

High Heat Baseball vs Virtua Tennis

2 NBA Jam vs Earl Weaver Baseball

Arch-Rivals vs Super Monaco GP series

3 Football Manager vs Links Golf Series

Micro Machines Madness vs Out of the Park Baseball

 

 

Notes: No, I did not rig the draw to put FIFA and PES against each other. Wow. Talk about a tight matchup. I think that, Punch-Out! and Mutant Football are the only three seeds to be in true trouble in the round of 64.. Kinda Bizarre that out of the very few boxing games in the field, ABC Wide World of Sports and Knockout Kings got put against each other.

 

 

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for some reason, the Road Rash vs Rocket League matchup intrigues me the most.  

this should be a very interesting tournament

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I'm all for the idea but you can't do non-sim racing games, and I say this as somebody who would probably vote for them. Different beast. A Mario Kart vs. NFL 2K finals doesn't click.

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Haven't forgotten, but things have come up in real life, I need to ask Rippa and crew how they want to handle this (if they want to open a tourney time forum in here, etcetera)

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