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Niners Fan in CT Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Execproducer said: And Charlotte being there elevated the match. Period. Going to have to disagree there. I was at WrestleMania. Charlotte was a non-factor. Becky and Rhonda got the loudest reactions by far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Probably because she was third wheeling in that specific feud and was synthetically injected into the mix despite the match not needing her. Fans reacted accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This argument AGAIN? The crowd was HOT for the idea of Becky vs Ronda when Becky announced who she was going to challenge at WrestleMania. I don't know how anyone can say Charlotte elevated that match when it was already clearly the main event - one because it was a Ronda Rousey match, and two because Becky was the most over person on the roster at that time. No one else came close. Also, as far as Charlotte talking about being in the main event "two years before it happened" or whatever... Becky was talking about main eventing WrestleMania in like, 2014. There's a clip of her saying that in the 24: WrestleMania New York documentary on the Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rehabilitated Rick said: Probably because she was third wheeling in that specific feud and was synthetically injected into the mix despite the match not needing her. Fans reacted accordingly. I can see why she was added. Becky-Ronda one on one could have looked too much like a clear coronation going in. Rumours of Ronda taking a break made the result even clearer. Adding Charlotte to the mix adds another viable result in the mind of some fans who were paranoid that Charlotte was always going over Becky in the end. And it plays off everything that had been happening since Survivor Series and TLC. There are plenty of ways to make sense of her presence in the match. People can dislike triple threats or Charlotte or argue that they should have pivoted even harder once Becky kept heating up. But Charlotte was baked deep into the story since the fall. Nothing synthetic about her presence in that match. As far as fan reactions on the night of, she was the only clear heel in the match. At the end of a show that long, it's a miracle the fans managed to get it up for the babyfaces. The energy that night topped out at Kofi's win and nothing really got that back. But I wouldn't go as far as to say Charlotte elevated the match. Although going against general consensus, I don't see what harm was done. I've read that people felt the triple threat or Ronda's shoulder coming up put a damper on Becky's big moment and had her reign stumbling right out of the box. To them, I say hogwash. I don't care what the match was at Mania or how botched the finish was, because she was coming out of that to enjoy a months long feud against a Lacey Evans who was under-seasoned and awkward on-screen chemistry with her fiance. With that kind of creative on her horizon, she was losing some momentum regardless of what happened at Mania. I kind of like your idea that they might run this triple threat match again. It would be hilarious if we could add a few new layers of contentiousness on top of this one. Edited January 28, 2020 by West Newbury Bad Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) A clear and predictable outcome doesn't mean it's a bad outcome. Everyone knows a good guy is going to prevail over evil, what's important is how they get there. Edited January 28, 2020 by Niners Fan in CT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 What's the adage? "You have to give the fans what they want in a way they don't expect"? They certainly accomplished that by adding Charlotte and I agree that adding her to the match wasn't necessarily forced in a story line sense but there's also something much more engaging about a one on one match. No cheap saves, no 2 on 1, no excuses, two people enter and one person leaves. A triple threat just doesn't carry the same cache and never will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: A clear and predictable outcome doesn't mean it's a bad outcome. Everyone knows a good guy is going to prevail over evil, what's important is how they get there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @AxB If you plan on showing me all the times WWE got something wrong we'll be here all night 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 If she agrees to get another number tattooed on her every year she's in the Rumble, I'd book her in every single Rumble till the end of time. Men's and women's. Keep going till she has more numbers on her skin than Victor Zsasz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: If she agrees to get another number tattooed on her every year she's in the Rumble, I'd book her in every single Rumble till the end of time. Men's and women's. Keep going till she has more numbers on her skin than Victor Zsasz. AJ Lee did the tally marks on winning the WWE Divas Championship. Longest reign till Nikki Bella took the record when Lee left WWE with CM Punk. Remember resident bully JBL shitting on the tattoo. Edited January 29, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffSnackwell Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 9:51 PM, BobbyWhioux said: it gets even "better" the more I think of names of woman who could have actually had that spot but were instead left off the show entirely to make room for it. If they were really lucky, they could've been the one at the receiving end of a Stinkface from Kelly Kelly. That's what Vince calls really getting a rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Quote AJ Lee did the tally marks on winning the WWE Divas Championship. Longest reign till Nikki Bella took the record when Lee left WWE with CM Punk. Remember resident bully JBL shitting on the tattoo. I also remember people getting up in arms about JBL shitting on AJ's tattoo. Its funny since those people also shit on another AJ for getting tattoos of his children's birth dates. Edited January 29, 2020 by Eivion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 AJ Lee utterly humiliating King and JBL on commentary that night was awesome. King looked like a moron, JBL like an ineffectual bully, while she elevated the stupid butterfly belt just by talking about it. Adding Charlotte into the main event was dumb then, and even dumber looking back. They sacrificed the entire rest of the division on the road to the match, and a year later it's only barely recovered. Christ, not running Charlotte/Asuka II was dumb just by itself. Plus, in the match itself, Charlotte was so obviously unnecessary and just grafted on. It just muddied the water in what should've been a clear-cut coronation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Ever since Daniel Bryan debuted the running knee putting down John Cena in a classic match for the WWE Championship at SummerSlam 2013, it's one of my favourite wrestling moves. It's one of the most protected finishers going. The only men to kick out: Randy Orton. Orton was able to because of a short cover delay by Batista throwing Bryan outside the ring, WrestleMania XXX. Roman Reigns, Fastlane 2015. Brock Lesnar twice, Survivor Series 2018. Kofi Kingston, Elimination Chamber 2019. Kofi Kingston, WrestleMania XXXV. The Fiend Bray Wyatt, Survivor Series 2019. The Fiend Bray Wyatt twice, Royal Rumble 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Yes, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 17 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: AJ Lee utterly humiliating King and JBL on commentary that night was awesome. King looked like a moron, JBL like an ineffectual bully, while she elevated the stupid butterfly belt just by talking about it. Adding Charlotte into the main event was dumb then, and even dumber looking back. They sacrificed the entire rest of the division on the road to the match, and a year later it's only barely recovered. Christ, not running Charlotte/Asuka II was dumb just by itself. Plus, in the match itself, Charlotte was so obviously unnecessary and just grafted on. It just muddied the water in what should've been a clear-cut coronation. The fact that a bully like JBL got punked out by both AJ Lee and Joey Styles is just beautiful. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Per the new WON - Kelly Kelly was the last minute replacement when Sasha wasn't cleared. Also if you were curious Quote The men’s Rumble was put together by Shane McMahon, James Gibson (Noble) , Chris Park (Abyss) and Lance Evers (Storm) with input by Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar regarding the early part of the match. Vince McMahon was heavily involved in the finishing sequence and not only made the final call on McIntyre winning, but also the sequence and his eliminating Reigns last. The women’s Rumble was put together by Michael Seitz (Hayes), T.J. Wilson (Tyson Kidd), Adam Pearce, Mickie James and Paul Levesque had input the day of the show to help out and made it flow better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Per the new WON - Kelly Kelly was the last minute replacement when Sasha wasn't cleared. Also if you were curious That helps explain why there were two extended satellite headscissors spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) WWE and TapouT since 2015. I know TapouT as a MMA brand first. Edited January 31, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just added to YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 My son just said: A= 1 B= 2 C= 3 etc.etc Then E+D+G+E = 21 Edge was number 21 in the rumble 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) My wife just said "It's WWE, who gives a shit anymore? AEW is fun to watch!" Edited February 1, 2020 by OSJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, OSJ said: My wife just said "It's WWE, who gives a shit anymore? AEW is fun to watch!" What does she think about the NWA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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