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Royal Rumble XXXIII - 1/26/2020


Dolfan in NYC

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I've heard from 3 different people today that they very much disliked the Women's Rumble because "all those NXT girls nobody has ever heard of". I was like, well every one of those Women, with the exception of Shotzi and Mercedes who just showed up, are pretty prominently featured on NXT, so it's not like they're complete unknowns if you watch that show. Then, just to see because I hadn't really thought about it, I looked at the complete list of entrants in the Women's Rumble and 13 were from NXT, 7 from RAW, and 7 from Smackdown, and 3 "free agents". So, I guess NXT really did have one hell of a presence in the Rumble. Especially when compared to the Men's Rumble when only 2 entrants were NXT.

 

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1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

Circling back to this... I just wanted to reiterate what total horseshit this is. Because this is almost word for word what they said when Orton won. 

And then we got bugs in the ring. 

No offense to Satin, but he did complain when Tessa Blanchard didn't win the X-Division title. I don't see how this is any different. 

Still can't get over that Charlotte Flair had to be in last year's main event because "Vince promised her the main event" or some such nonsense or Rousey vs. Charlotte was the anointed match or some such. It should've been Rousey vs. Lynch and that's it. I maintain the booking of how they forced Charlotte into the match was awful.

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2 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

Circling back to this... I just wanted to reiterate what total horseshit this is. Because this is almost word for word what they said when Orton won. 

And then we got bugs in the ring. 

Man, I hated that WrestleMania XXXIII match. I gave extra credit to Goldberg/Lesnar for waking me and the crowd back up as we had to suffer from Rollins/Triple H and Wyatt/Orton back to back.

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42 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

No offense to Satin, but he did complain when Tessa Blanchard didn't win the X-Division title. I don't see how this is any different. 

Still can't get over that Charlotte Flair had to be in last year's main event because "Vince promised her the main event" or some such nonsense or Rousey vs. Charlotte was the anointed match or some such. It should've been Rousey vs. Lynch and that's it. I maintain the booking of how they forced Charlotte into the match was awful.

Charlotte had been stating in interviews that her goal was to be in the 1st women's main event at WrestleMania probably at least two years before it happened and had obviously been working towards that. Would have been beyond a shame for her to have been pushed out. Yeah, the booking largely sucked but it gave us that awesome backstage brawl! ?  And Charlotte being there elevated the match. Period. Are Becky and Ronda ever going to be able to have a great one-on-one? I hope so but I'll believe in it when I actually see it.

And , not directed at you specifically, but the ridiculous crying about the possibility of Becky and Charlotte ever having another match! There is so much of that story left to tell. It's a good thing most of you weren't around in the 70's or 80's or we might not have had as much of Flair-Steamboat or Rhodes-Race or Funk-Brisco or Gagne- Bockwinkel. Or later with Misawa-Kawada or Austin-Rock. I mean the thought that some of you might have had to endure so much greatness pains my heart. 

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12 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Very quick count - 6 (this is counting the Usos who just were in the opening brawl, Corey Graves announcing)

I also can't remember if I counted Baszler since a) I couldn't remember if she was dating Dakota Kai or Teagen Knox (though both count) and b) technically I wasn't sure if the relationship was official

I have never heard that. Where did this information come from?

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- faking a knee injury to work the ref and sucker punch your opponent

- attempting to remove the turnbuckle pad

- having an ongoing argument with one particular fan while working your headlocks

- shaking your head "no" in a vain attempt to discourage people from chanting for your opponent

- the mock salute

- CHEAT TO WIN~! with a handful of trunks on the winning pinfall

- crawling away up the ramp to underscore that you totally got your ass kicked and stole the victory


It may have been the bathroom match for a lot of people, but I totally appreciate Evil Bayley's homage to classic heeling. 

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13 hours ago, Execproducer said:

Charlotte had been stating in interviews that her goal was to be in the 1st women's main event at WrestleMania probably at least two years before it happened and had obviously been working towards that. Would have been beyond a shame for her to have been pushed out. Yeah, the booking largely sucked but it gave us that awesome backstage brawl! ?  And Charlotte being there elevated the match. Period. Are Becky and Ronda ever going to be able to have a great one-on-one? I hope so but I'll believe in it when I actually see it.

And , not directed at you specifically, but the ridiculous crying about the possibility of Becky and Charlotte ever having another match! There is so much of that story left to tell. It's a good thing most of you weren't around in the 70's or 80's or we might not have had as much of Flair-Steamboat or Rhodes-Race or Funk-Brisco or Gagne- Bockwinkel. Or later with Misawa-Kawada or Austin-Rock. I mean the thought that some of you might have had to endure so much greatness pains my heart. 

All CM Punk ever wanted was a WrestleMania main event and Vince McMahon apparently owed him several times over and he never got it. CM Punk talked about it in interviews as well. 

So the fact that she talked about it for two years means nothing to me. Just because she talked about it, she deserved it more? She was hardly the only woman talking about women headlining WrestleMania.

If you believe Meltzer the plan is for Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley and Becky Lynch vs. Shayna Baszler. 

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45 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:

If you believe Meltzer the plan is for Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley and Becky Lynch vs. Shayna Baszler. 

I’m into Lynch/Baszler, it’s a toss up over who should and could win, no issues there. Charlotte/Ripley seems like a no-win situation. If Flair goes over, outside of possibly devaluing NXT, who cares? If Ripley goes over, that’s a huge win for her but she’s already the champ on her show, she’s at the ceiling. And what do you do with Charlotte then? I don’t know, there’s a lot more to it but that’s my knee jerk reaction: Why?

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18 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Speaking of Naomi - someone posted a photo and I can't find it now of her and Bianca and I am totally cool with them being the next tag champs

I support this 100%

Are you talking about Bianca's Happy Birthday, Naomi pics from her Twitter feed?

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Naomi's abs are unreal.  My abs are shameful.

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22 minutes ago, Godfrey said:

I’m into Lynch/Baszler, it’s a toss up over who should and could win, no issues there. Charlotte/Ripley seems like a no-win situation. If Flair goes over, outside of possibly devaluing NXT, who cares? If Ripley goes over, that’s a huge win for her but she’s already the champ on her show, she’s at the ceiling. And what do you do with Charlotte then? I don’t know, there’s a lot more to it but that’s my knee jerk reaction: Why?

It's zero sum. but not entirely horrible.  You at least have plenty of women in the upper tier that you can interchange through the brands without kayfabe arguments about why they should be getting title shots in their debut.

Rhea Ripley does not need to prove herself on the night she'd show up on RAWs dooerstep to challenge Charlotte and the same would go for Asuka or Bayley or Shayna or Sasha if they went to another brand to claim gold.

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10 hours ago, Gonzo said:

You could take the good and take the bad. . .

The people complaining about Charlotte winning need to remember, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum.
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.

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7 minutes ago, Log said:

The people complaining about Charlotte winning need to remember, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum.
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.

I'd just be happy to know that Rhea was movin' on up. It would be great to see her finally get a piece of the pie.

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The logic behind Charlotte challenging Rhea would be to elevate a NXT title to the level of the other two where the that it is a big enough deal that the Rumble winner chooses it

The kayfabe reasoning could be that Charlotte knows she can beat Becky and she can beat Bayley (since she has done both). Plus she would be seeking revenge from Survivor Series (Granted it would work better if Charlotte had never won the NXT title)

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3 hours ago, J.T. said:

I support this 100%

Are you talking about Bianca's Happy Birthday, Naomi pics from her Twitter feed?

EKpU2f7XUAAzmUx.jpg

Naomi's abs are unreal.  My abs are shameful.

Naomi clearly covers her abs so she doesn't make the other wrestlers feel bad.

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2 hours ago, RIPPA said:

The logic behind Charlotte challenging Rhea would be to elevate a NXT title to the level of the other two where the that it is a big enough deal that the Rumble winner chooses it

The kayfabe reasoning could be that Charlotte knows she can beat Becky and she can beat Bayley (since she has done both). Plus she would be seeking revenge from Survivor Series (Granted it would work better if Charlotte had never won the NXT title)

I would definitely book the feud but yeah, I would never put Charlotte over Rhea since Rhea's brand it still being built and Charlotte's loss is something that Rhea could hold over Charlotte's head in future booking should rosters shift dramatically when the next draft rolls around.

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