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Royal Rumble XXXIII - 1/26/2020


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Reminder for the folks who were concerned that almost the entire Men's Rumble field had been announced ahead of time.

6 people announced didn't actually participate in the match (Otis, Tucker, Rusev, Lashley, Buddy Murphy, R-Truth)

Never underestimate the company's ability to not deliver what they advertise

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What's weird about that is that other than Edge and MVP, no one seemed like a surprise. Hardly any NXT guys, no 205 cannon fodder, no big debut, no retired vet in a comedy role. 

I would much rather have seen Santino in the Men's Rumble doing that exact same Cobra self-elimination spot against Brock than the ridiculously tone-deaf Santina return. 

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11 minutes ago, w. josh said:

What's weird about that is that other than Edge and MVP, no one seemed like a surprise. Hardly any NXT guys, no 205 cannon fodder, no big debut, no retired vet in a comedy role. 

I would much rather have seen Santino in the Men's Rumble doing that exact same Cobra self-elimination spot against Brock than the ridiculously tone-deaf Santina return. 

i would have also rather had Buddy than MVP.  MVP won't be back tonight and was a waste of a spot. 

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I got real bored this morning so the list of women who have been in all 3 Rumbles is smaller than I thought (I think I started thinking this after realizing that 3 of the 4 Horsewoman were not in it this year) but not that small. Basically exactly 1/3 of the Rumble field is always the same

  • Sarah Logan
  • Mandy Rose
  • Sonya Deville
  • Liv Morgan
  • Carmella
  • Nattie
  • Naomi
  • Kairi Sane
  • Tamina
  • Dana Brooke
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  • They're on the cusp of something big with McIntyre if his Rumble reaction(s) are to be believed. I haven't been a regular viewer in a hot minute, so I don't know how he's treated on RAW (right?), but he got some monster pops throughout that match. But, me being a pessimist, and this being WWE... let's see how bad they fuck this up. We've been here before with people like Braun Strowman, hopefully that's not one of those situations though. Also - mildly intrigued to see where they go with the Edge thing. Maybe he joins KO, Samoa Joe and Aleister Black's fight against Rollins, AOP and Buddy Murphy at 'Mania? If it's anything like the Bryan situation from a few years ago, they'd probably want him in a tag match just to protect him a little more. But if it's only a Rumble to 'Mania run for him, do you want to waste his one and only return match (besides the Rumble) on an 8 man tag?
  • The women's Rumble wasn't bad, it's about neck and neck with the one from last year I'd say. I don't like that Charlotte won, since now it's either going to be her versus Becky, or her versus Bayley (she still gets to challenge whoever she wants, doesn't she? or did they change that again?). If she hadn't of won, and Rousey was coming back, and Becky lost her title between now and 'Mania, I'd say Charlotte/Becky vs Shayna/Ronda would be the way to go. But that's not meant to be, it seems. Like others have said, I just don't know what you do with this win for Charlotte. It's either rematches galore, or Becky/Bayley loses their title to someone that's on a clear step below them AND Charlotte.

We always talk about wanting the Rumble winners to be people that are thrust into stardom because of that win, and maybe their too scared to do that with the men's version (although it could be argued they're doing that with Drew I guess?), but the women's Rumble should definitely be used for this. The past three winners have been Asuka, Becky and Charlotte. Did they need those Rumble wins? I don't think so. Shayna could have used it and it'd be like putting a rocket onto her back, but for it to really matter she'd have to leave NXT if she did (which wouldn't be a bad thing). 

That's all I've watched so far. I'll check out Becky/Asuka later today since the last two weeks of their TV stuff have kind of sucked me in, and they're both good wrestlers, so I'm all in for that match. I love Daniel Bryan, but I don't want to watch anything involving The Fiend. And I definitely don't care about Corbin versus Reigns.

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I will just say this about Charlotte - she was always going to win A Rumble. And it was highly doubtful it was going to be like another 5 years down the road.

So if it wasn't this year it would probably be next year

Y'all have watched the WWE for however many years - you know how Vince books and the people who are always going to be his favorites.

Unless of course you get more energy from being irritated when folks like Randy Orton win again. Then you do you.

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I get what you’re saying, but they kind of have to go the “let’s make this person a star” route with the women after this year. I guess Sasha and Bayley still have to win one probably, but after that, if they don’t do what I’m talking about then it’ll just be the same handful of people winning year after year. Vince’s favorite pile has a lot more to pull from when you look at the men’s roster vs the women. Hell, I would have taken a Mandy Rose win this year, but I’m actually more of a fan of hers than I am Charlotte (and she’s supposedly a Vinny Mac favorite).

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My problem with the women's division is they've kind of exhausted all the big matches and matchups available right now. Just for example, Asuka/Lynch blowoff is a match that could've happened at Mania. 

Ronda Rousey not being around hurts because Rousey vs. Lynch, the match we should've gotten last year, is probably the most exciting one on paper. This is why I wanted Shayna Baszler to win because that would've freshened up the title scene. Having Baszler target Lynch would be intense. I still feel like Asuka hasn't really recovered for how she was made to look like a chump for most of 2018. Charlotte vs. Becky or Bayley again is not quite as interesting to me.

Drew McIntyre I think was the right way to go this year in terms of the Rumble. I would say go ahead and give him the rocket push and see what happens. They floundered with McIntyre a lot after his initial return to the main roster, but he's finally got some momentum now and they need to maintain that. I'm not saying to give him the final slot at Mania because Mania is so long now that the main event is almost like a borderline death slot at this point.

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A few more things now that my buzz has worn off.

Becky/Asuka was great. The build to the match all the way to the finish were very well done even if there wasn’t much tension since the winner wasn’t really in question. The women’s division could use some shaking up on Raw since it’s been based around the same four women for a while now, outside of Lana and Liv if you would even count that. Maybe that’s where Naomi will land (great to see her back too).

I legit LOL’d at Lesnar’s face when he saw Keith Lee coming out and again when he looked at Heyman to say “Who’s this motherfucker?!” That’s the true talent of Brock, he can get guys over with his expressions alone. It’s a shame he’s usually booked to squash them right afterwards.

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1 hour ago, hammerva said:

wait they brought back Todd Pettengill ?

 

yeah but i don't think he was there for the whole time. He talked about the fake Bill Clinton stuff.

 

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Reminder for the folks who were concerned that almost the entire Men's Rumble field had been announced ahead of time.

6 people announced didn't actually participate in the match (Otis, Tucker, Rusev, Lashley, Buddy Murphy, R-Truth)

Never underestimate the company's ability to not deliver what they advertise

 

My understanding is Rusev/Lashley was a storyline thing and there was an "altercation" that caused them to get removed. Yes, WWE has had that problem a lot in 2019, but I think they did kind of explain this one?

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Honestly, Becky screaming bloody murder at Asuka and then having her head kicked off would have been the perfect way to re-establish Asuka.  

However, if Rousey's coming back, Becky's got to look strong when Ronda taps her.   (Which of course leads back to the 'who can beat Ronda' issue from 2018-19.)

My biggest sadness from the Women's Rumble result is that poor Bayley has to lose to Charlotte again at a PPV.  

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The first half of the Rumble felt like survival mode in No Mercy. It wasn't terribly fun to watch after a couple guys other than the brief ND/Rey team-up, but the payoff was good. I'm glad they let Drew go all the way instead of just counting the Lesnar elim as his rub.

You know Charlotte is over-pushed when Shayna winning would've felt fresh.

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2 hours ago, Execproducer said:

It's been bad for a long while but it really jumped the shark when Ronda did it. If it quietly goes away, we all win.

Speaking of jumping the shark, when THE FIEND did the Two-Count Shocked Face(sorta.. through his mask) that was it for me. It's WAY overused as it is but there's no reason that character should be doing that action. 

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2 hours ago, RIPPA said:

Today in Bryan Alvarez is an idiot

Shanya was buried because she was only in the Rumble for 4 minutes

That's nothing.  Bryan lost his shit two years ago over how Andrade (making his main roster debut) was treated.  He lasted a half hour, eliminated Kofi,  and got tossed by Randy Orton. THAT made him a "total geek."

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31 minutes ago, Peck said:

Speaking of jumping the shark, when THE FIEND did the Two-Count Shocked Face(sorta.. through his mask) that was it for me. It's WAY overused as it is but there's no reason that character should be doing that action. 

No one has ever done it better than Shinjiro Otani.

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4 hours ago, RolandTHTG said:

Also whose great idea was it to have Jerry Lawler do the women's rumble? Yeesh.

This reminded me, unfortunately, of the boorish friend-of-a-friend who was at the Rumble viewing party I attended last night who insisted on playing "Would you do her?" during the women's Rumble.  It was excruciating.  When he went all in after I noticed that Beth had the head injury, he said, "I want to see the size of her gash."  I've never wanted to beat a dude's ass so much.

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I am quickly skimming the Watch Along and Vile One is right - its all about Woods just telling stories

Like he told the story that the first year he was supposed to be in the Rumble, they had him come out and announce he was the first person entered. And then for like 3 straight weeks, he kept mentioning it on TV. Then on the come home show before the Rumble they announced all the people who would be in the match and had them come to the ring and his name wasn't called and he was all WTF?

Then he said the next year - he was supposed to be in the Rumble and they forgot to buy him a plane ticket

So at one point he looks at the camera and sarcastically goes "Yeah... the Rumble is my favorite event"

EDIT - Okay seriously I hope someone edits it into one video. They have a fun Rumble pool and Woods gets Shanya and proceeds to get fully invested in her winning and is quite bitter when Charlotte wins

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20 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

Per Meltzer on the radio show

The AJ injury is a shoulder separation and they hope he will be back for Mania

They should have quietly snuck him out under the ropes in that case rather than have Edge chuck him over the top. There's no reason you can't say a competitor is unable to continue due to injury.

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4 hours ago, RolandTHTG said:

Also whose great idea was it to have Jerry Lawler do the women's rumble? Yeesh.

Even worse Lawler with Corey Graves.  I mean short of having Nigel as a 4th man it would have had almost all of the pervs in one women's match.  Yeah when they started talking about kids and baseball games and their favorite women I can only imagine the backstage talk on that

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Drew vs Lesnar is a great choice. 

Does Becky vs Charlotte vs Ronda II main event WM once again?

Guess Bayley loses her title in the Elimination Chamber. Sasha/Asuka/Shayna/Ruby Riott/Nia. 

The Fiend vs Reigns seems likely, it is what it is I guess. Daniel Bryan vs Edge would be fun. 

Maybe Rollins, Murphy & AOP vs Orton, Black, Joe & KO

 

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