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Royal Rumble XXXIII - 1/26/2020


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5 hours ago, Johnny Sorrow said:

That was a great show. We had a blast here in the homestead with a feast of food and a room full of adults and kids enjoying some wrestling.

How dare you. You must watch a bunch of stuff you hate to cleanse.

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I missed the show because I was at work, but I was following along with it on social media. When I got home I went straight to the Men's Rumble match (I'll watch the rest of it another time).

For all the shit WWE takes for most of their decision-making, they did a hell of a job with this match. Straight-up chills when McIntyre won, and plenty of other great moments too (the Edge return, Lee going toe-to-toe with Lesnar).

Why don't they just make the entire plane out of the Royal Rumble?

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I think Reigns/Fiend depends on how quickly you're prepared to dispense the Fiend as the guy 

Built him up as an unbeatable monster only to drop a fall 8 months later? On the other hand Roman cant afford another high profile choke.

I think a four way involving Corbin and Bryan makes more sense if you look past the need for Mania to be one vs one title matches. Adds a dynamic of vulnerability to the Fiend losing without being pinned. 

Interested to see who the fourth guy would be for AoP/Rollins/Murphy vs Joe/Owens/Black. Viking Raiders makes the most sense but Black seems to be added to the mix and has history with Buddy. I'll say Ricochet. On the other hand I expect there's an OC vs Rated RKO match in there too, so seems unlikely you go with two big multiman matches. Joe and Owens vs Rollins and Buddy for the tag straps seems doable. 

Could you do a hair and title vs career and mask match for Rey and Andrade?

I can't see Bayley making it to Mania as champion. It's just a matter of who takes her title beforehand and faces Charlotte. But where does that leave Becky? Time might be right for another winner take all four way between the Horsewomen and then have Shayna/Rousey/etc attack them the night after and force them to put their differences aside.

 

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Charlotte winning was pretty much a foregone conclusion. So I wasn’t surprised. I like her but I also have no interest in her facing either Becky or Bayley at Mania. Favorite moment of the Rumble was Naomi returning, natural hair and all. I live. 

Becky/Asuka was pretty good as expected. And Bayley/Lacey was a thing. 

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Did a quick scan so apologies if already mentioned but PWI is confirming that AJ Styles did hurt his arm on the landing after taking the spear from Edge

Nothing beyond that since he will be going in today for further tests

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36 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said:

I think Reigns/Fiend depends on how quickly you're prepared to dispense the Fiend as the guy 

Built him up as an unbeatable monster only to drop a fall 8 months later? On the other hand Roman cant afford another high profile choke.

I think a four way involving Corbin and Bryan makes more sense if you look past the need for Mania to be one vs one title matches. Adds a dynamic of vulnerability to the Fiend losing without being pinned. 

Interested to see who the fourth guy would be for AoP/Rollins/Murphy vs Joe/Owens/Black. Viking Raiders makes the most sense but Black seems to be added to the mix and has history with Buddy. I'll say Ricochet. On the other hand I expect there's an OC vs Rated RKO match in there too, so seems unlikely you go with two big multiman matches. Joe and Owens vs Rollins and Buddy for the tag straps seems doable. 

Could you do a hair and title vs career and mask match for Rey and Andrade?

I can't see Bayley making it to Mania as champion. It's just a matter of who takes her title beforehand and faces Charlotte. But where does that leave Becky? Time might be right for another winner take all four way between the Horsewomen and then have Shayna/Rousey/etc attack them the night after and force them to put their differences aside.

 

Jesus the thought of that 4-way with Corbin sounds horrible. That man needs to go away for along time, if not for good. 

i understand your point with blowing off The Fiend after 8 months, but is the reaction going to be that much bigger at 12/-8/24 months away compared to now? And that’s without worrying about the possible reaction Bryan would get for beating The Fiend being way greater than Reigns. And the reaction Reigns would get for beating him would be weaker 12 months from now imo, altho tbh I doubt there is much of a difference in reactions for Bryan be it now or later. I just think if it’s not those two now, I don’t think the gimmick that beats The Fiend for the first is currently on the roster.

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a couple of quick thoughts.

 

Brock beating all the mid card guys only to be tossed by Drew is cool and all but you could have also made a guy like Keith Lee or Walter by putting them in the same spot.  You could do it with Walter and still have Drew eliminate him for the big pop and I don't think it would tarnish his win any in doing so.

Why was Sasha not on the show? She was doing signings in Houston and it was her birthday also.  Seemed strange. 

Did I miss it or did nobody point to the Mania sign this year?

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Im not too much worried with reactions so much as realising the Fiend will be just another guy so soon.

Roman beats him at Mania. Beats him/retains in a couple of rematches. Then what?

I feel like you can keep the belt on him till Summerslam. If you can avoid Reigns dropping another big match. Especially if you don't plan on having them close the show.

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3 hours ago, Brian Fowler said:

Just so everyone knows this: Kevin Dunn is the producer, not the director. He's not the one missing shots. I'm not sure if it's still Kerwin Silfies, but I think so.

Cool.  

Fire him too. 

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22 minutes ago, Thunder Down Under said:

Jesus the thought of that 4-way with Corbin sounds horrible. That man needs to go away for along time, if not for good. 

i understand your point with blowing off The Fiend after 8 months, but is the reaction going to be that much bigger at 12/-8/24 months away compared to now? And that’s without worrying about the possible reaction Bryan would get for beating The Fiend being way greater than Reigns. And the reaction Reigns would get for beating him would be weaker 12 months from now imo, altho tbh I doubt there is much of a difference in reactions for Bryan be it now or later. I just think if it’s not those two now, I don’t think the gimmick that beats The Fiend for the first is currently on the roster.

I am thinking Fiend loses to DB between now and Mania and we get Bryan-Reigns   which wouldn't be that bad of a match really. 

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Fiend vs Roman is pretty easy to me. Roman's great at working from underneath. Have the Fiend take most of the match, have Roman come back, hit a few superman punches and one spear. It would work. The whole point of a monster is to have a hero beat him. 

You could still rehabilitate the Fiend for a Summerslam match vs Brock or something. Meanwhile, give Roman an actual dominant run as a face champion to carry the brand. 

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38 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:

My only regret is that we didn’t get WALTER toward the tail end of the Brock thing. I wanted to see the staredown and you know Brock would have pinballed his ass off for the chop. 

And then eliminate him 30 seconds later

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32 minutes ago, Matt D said:

Fiend vs Roman is pretty easy to me. Roman's great at working from underneath. Have the Fiend take most of the match, have Roman come back, hit a few superman punches and one spear. It would work. The whole point of a monster is to have a hero beat him. 

You could still rehabilitate the Fiend for a Summerslam match vs Brock or something. Meanwhile, give Roman an actual dominant run as a face champion to carry the brand. 

It's really just a matter of who the hero will be though. In most fans eyes Daniel Bryan would be the David slaying Bray's Goliath  (that didn't sound as good as I'd hoped)   Whereas with Reigns it's almost like we are conditioned to think "oh it's Roman again Bray has no chance"      I also wouldn't hate a triple threat with Bryan, Bray, and Roman

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6 hours ago, TheVileOne said:

Xavier Woods going off during the Royal Rumble was hilarious. It’s worth a look. He even goes nuts about the Edge spear cuts.

Woods was basically in untouchable give no craps mood tonight. 

Here is the full watch along

 

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Credit where it's due - they did a good job with Keith Lee in the Rumble. Brock's reaction was great, the one-on-one was perfect, and he got eliminated cheaply rather than Lesnar just picking him up and chucking him. His two big PPV appearances have done a good job of making him seem like a big deal going forward...so far.

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The strap match felt like the result of a bet, where someone went up to Daniel Bryan and said "OK, to prove you're the best wrestler on the planet, I want you to wrestle a limited opponent to a **** match. Plus it's a strap match. Plus he's allowed to shrug off 90% of your offense. Think you can do it?" And then he did.

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