The Natural Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, tbarrie said: I like the look, but why does MCU Taskmaster carry a sword? There's no established sword-using character for him to copy. Taskmaster wants to cosplay an Asgardian in Sif/Heimdall/Valkyrie ;). Edited February 18, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Didn't Ronin use swords? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 12 hours ago, tbarrie said: I like the look, but why does MCU Taskmaster carry a sword? There's no established sword-using character for him to copy. He carries a sword pretty regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 15 hours ago, tbarrie said: I like the look, but why does MCU Taskmaster carry a sword? There's no established sword-using character for him to copy. The complete history of the MCU has not been written. We know Captain America was the first Super-Human in the late 1940s (Thor not being human), and we know Ant-Man 1 was active in the 80s, and Captain Marvel the early 90s. Nothing to say a Black Knight wasn't active in the 50s-70s (although it seems Kit Harrington is playing Black Knight in The Eternals). Weren't there several Black Knights in the comics? I'm sure Dane Whitman wasn't the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 No, Whitman isn't the original. It's possible Taskmaster could have studied Nathan Garrett if he ever existed in the MCU, since the original Black Knight was in the 6th century. Maybe he studied Deadpool if they're making the existing films MCU canon. But yeah, the only actual character that's used swords on-screen (that could have been feasibly captured on film anyway) is Hawkeye/Ronin. You've got others like the Warrior's Three and maybe Gamora/Nebula and Thanos in Endgame, but I doubt news crews were filming the battle from a distance or, uh, in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Eivion said: He carries a sword pretty regularly. I'm aware,, but that's because one of the fighters comics Taskmaster has studied is Hawkeye's old mentor the Swordsman. That character doesn't exist in the MCU. Others have pointed out there could easily be broadsword-users in the MCU we just haven't seen yet, which is true. But I think the concept loses something if he's not riffing on established characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) On 2/18/2020 at 6:19 AM, tbarrie said: I like the look, but why does MCU Taskmaster carry a sword? There's no established sword-using character for him to copy. He can copy normal humans with exceptional training or special physical gifts as well as metas. Taskmaster's photographic reflexes work like the training deck that Neo used to learn Kung Fu in the Matrix movies. He could've trained by watching a normal human who was a sword prodigy and he'd become just as good as the actual swordmaster. Taskmaster also doesn't have to physically see his target in action for his muscle memory ability to manifest. He can watch videos or television footage and achieve the same result. 15 hours ago, Bustronaut said: Didn't Ronin use swords? Hawkeye doesn't really start using swords as Ronin until after Infinity War and Taskmaster should be long dead by that time since Black Widow is set in Cold War era MCU and they'll probably kill Taskmaster off by the end of the movie. Edited February 19, 2020 by J.T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 No one remembers the Swordsman? sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Trebor said: No one remembers the Swordsman? sad. In the MCU, circuses don't exist, only super secret military spy agencies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Matt D said: In the MCU, circuses don't exist, only super secret military spy agencies. What Matt said. We are all well aware of the existence of the Swordsman, the Black Knight, the Silver Samurai and other skilled Marvel blademasters, but they don't exist in the MCU so there is a bit of a paradox as to whom the Taskmaster will mimic for his skillset if he still retains his photographic reflexes from the comics. The movie is set in Cold War era MCU so he has no real contemporaries like MCU Daredevil, MCU Ronin, or MCU Punisher that he can observe and copy their abilities. Edited February 19, 2020 by J.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Black Widow isn't set in the Cold War. It's immediately after Civil War, but before Infinity War. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Might be the best Black Widow suit yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Widows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 You could always have Swordsman as a pre title villain at the beginning of the movie, similar to the use of Batroc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 All of the leaks I've seen since last year have no mention of Swordsman at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Casey said: Black Widow isn't set in the Cold War. It's immediately after Civil War, but before Infinity War. Ah. The wikipedias have led me astray again. Even so, there is still no sword specific metahuman for Taskmaster to draw his skill from unless it is a short aside or an implied offscreen death thing like how the Brotherhood was written off as Sentinel test subjects in X-Men: Days Of Futures Past. Edited February 19, 2020 by J.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) It ultimately doesn't even matter because Taskmaster is of little importance to this movie in the grand scheme of things. Edited February 19, 2020 by Casey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, Casey said: It ultimately doesn't even matter because Taskmaster is of little importance to this movie in the grand scheme of things. Not only that, but there's nothing that says they'll keep his power profile from the comics. I have a bad feeling he'll be more of a disposable villain than any other Marvel bad guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 He's a disposable villain for this movie, for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, J.T. said: Not only that, but there's nothing that says they'll keep his power profile from the comics. I have a bad feeling he'll be more of a disposable villain than any other Marvel bad guy. Which is a shame, as I think hes one of those baddies who could be super effective if written "correctly" (like Paste Pot Pete of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Most of the villains are disposable. It won't be until Doom or Norman Osbourne enter that we see some big boy shit again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, Niners Fan in CT said: Most of the villains are disposable. It won't be until Doom or Norman Osbourne enter that we see some big boy shit again I wonder if Namor will be a face or heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Most of the villains that they've wasted are being re-purposed for the Thunderbolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, odessasteps said: I wonder if Namor will be a face or heel. I think he works best as an asshole tweener like how he was in a lot of Hickman's stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Show Taskmaster watching an Errol Flynn film. Problem solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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