Eivion Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: House shows don't count unless they want them to count. I thought it was odd that Graves had such a problem with her recent booking, most women would kill for it. Most women would kill for it because it means they are on tv. More often than not it still hasn't been good booking. She won a belt three times last year for the sole purpose of quickly losing it to another woman. In the first case she took blame for what was dumbass decision on WWE's part so they could have Becky win two titles. That was bad for Charlotte and for Asuka. The second time she held the belt for all of a few minutes so Bayley could win via MITB. Then she won the belt just lose it again a week or two later so Bayley could fully cement her character change. Charlotte never even had a proper face turn which has made things semi awkward for her audience reactions. She didn't get much in the way of actual feuds for a lot of this as well since most of it was rather halfassed outside of the WM feud. She has been kind of aimless since joining Raw outside of the Kabuki Warriors feud where they took Nattie out as her partner and replaced her with Becky who Charlotte really needs to be far away from for a good long while after their long feud. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot said: Lou Thesz (30's to 90's) and Abdullah the Butcher (50s to 10s) are 7 decaders too. Johnny Saint is also in the 7 decade club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eivion said: Most women would kill for it because it means they are on tv. More often than not it still hasn't been good booking. She won a belt three times last year for the sole purpose of quickly losing it to another woman. In the first case she took blame for what was dumbass decision on WWE's part so they could have Becky win two titles. That was bad for Charlotte and for Asuka. The second time she held the belt for all of a few minutes so Bayley could win via MITB. Then she won the belt just lose it again a week or two later so Bayley could fully cement her character change. Charlotte never even had a proper face turn which has made things semi awkward for her audience reactions. She didn't get much in the way of actual feuds for a lot of this as well since most of it was rather halfassed outside of the WM feud. She has been kind of aimless since joining Raw outside of the Kabuki Warriors feud where they took Nattie out as her partner and replaced her with Becky who Charlotte really needs to be far away from for a good long while after their long feud. I wouldn't classify any of that as 'bad booking' because if I did then I'd have to say 99% of all WWE is constantly bad booking, which hey. At this point, that's pretty much the standard for someone who isn't in a title picture. But speaking of title pictures, Charlotte has lived in the title picture. She has 242 combined days as RAW Women's Champion and 193 days as Smackdown Women's Champion. Throw in 196 days as Divas Champion and by my math that is 631 days as the headliner of her division. Almost two full years. Now throw in where she's chased the title.. This is really the first time in her entire career where she hasn't been in the main event and don't worry she'll be right back up there soon enough. Edited January 21, 2020 by Niners Fan in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'm not sure how piss poor and half assed written feuds along with random short title wins/reigns don't qualify as bad booking. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot said: Now I'm sad we won't ever see Big E vs Goldberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) .. Edited January 21, 2020 by ChesterCopperpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) ... evidently I'm just very excited at the prospect of 2 huge men bumping meat. Edited January 21, 2020 by ChesterCopperpot 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Eivion said: I'm not sure how piss poor and half assed written feuds along with random short title wins/reigns don't qualify as bad booking. She's had plenty of lengthy reigns too. Also, these "random" title wins aren't random at all.. they want her to break Ric's 16 reigns so it's actually good booking for her as that's the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: She's had plenty of lengthy reigns too. Also, these "random" title wins aren't random at all.. they want her to break Ric's 16 reigns so it's actually good booking for her as that's the plan. We aren't talking about her entire WWE career, just this past year. And no, the quick reigns to get closer to Ric's record aren't good booking. If it was just a one off every other year or so it might have be fine, but the three from last year and the ones from her feud with Sasha have already made the idea of that joke and not something people will likely give a damn about when the time comes. I get it. She is still a top star so you really don't give a damn if she has a problem with her booking. The reality is though she has little to no momentum despite being a top star, and this past year of booking is a big reason as to why. Edited January 21, 2020 by Eivion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot said: ... evidently I'm just very excited at the prospect of 2 huge men bumping meat. As you should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Eivion said: I get it. She is still a top star so you really don't give a damn if she has a problem with her booking. The reality is though she has little to no momentum despite being a top star, and this past year of booking is a big reason as to why. Nobody has momentum. Even Roman Reigns. I'm not saying she's been booked perfectly, I'm saying she's been booked better than every other woman (and most men too) on the roster outside of maybe Becky but that's just this past year. The talk of her booking by Graves and her Dad and now her though she was asked is ridiculous when you considering what 99% of the roster deals with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Whether or not she is better off than most of the roster doesn't really change that her booking is shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Is there a thread about the new day pod? Cos we need to talk about meaty men bumpin meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Morganti said: Is there a thread about the new day pod? Cos we need to talk about meaty men bumpin meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I have no idea what's going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I'm not saying she's been booked perfectly, I'm saying she's been booked better than every other woman (and most men too) on the roster outside of maybe Becky but that's just this past year. So you're basically damning her booking with faint praise, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, tbarrie said: So you're basically damning her booking with faint praise, then. I'm saying she's one of the last people who should be concerned (or people like Graves concerned about her). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 So should she just not give a shit how she is used as long as she has a high spot on the card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Charlotte Flair was so in the wrong when Kairi Sane was injured at TLC 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorbladeKiss87 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot said: ... evidently I'm just very excited at the prospect of 2 huge men bumping meat. Maybe it's lack of sleep due to overwork, but I saw this and pictured Dave saying it and have been giggling for way too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Eivion said: So should she just not give a shit how she is used as long as she has a high spot on the card? Yes because the other option is asking WWE creative to do something they haven't done in 20 years and that's not a realistic option. Roman Reigns is in a feud with Baron Corbin over dog food. Do I think Roman is in a bad spot creatively? Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eivion Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Yes because the other option is asking WWE creative to do something they haven't done in 20 years and that's not a realistic option. Roman Reigns is in a feud with Baron Corbin over dog food. Do I think Roman is in a bad spot creatively? Not at all. Roman is in an actual sustained feud that is pushed as important on his show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Wow: @AxB, @SturmCRFand other Brits here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, The Natural said: Wow: @AxB, @SturmCRFand other Brits here. Does that mean Channel 5 brings back the Batman '66 fight sound graphics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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