ReiseReise Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 It will be very important how the early part of the return leg will play out for Liverpool. Iirc they were ahead last year aswell, although by fewer points and one loss plus a few draws were enough to put them into second. It seems unlikely at the moment, but I wouldn't put it past any Guardiola team to get 19 / 19 or close to it. And there are quite a few EPL teams you can draw or loose against without playing bad. That being said, I'd be happy for Klopp and for the Club to get that title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 West Ham United have sacked manager Manuel Pellegrini after a 2-1 home defeat by Leicester City today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 15 hours ago, ReiseReise said: It seems unlikely at the moment, but I wouldn't put it past any Guardiola team to get 19 / 19 or close to it. And there are quite a few EPL teams you can draw or loose against without playing bad. Yes, but the thing is that even if they win 19/19 the most they can get is 95 points. Liverpool got 97 last time. Liverpool are an absolute maximum of 44 points away from finishing ahead of Man City. They got 47 in their last 20 games last time. But realistically they can probably drop 20 points and win the title, it's going to take more than a couple of draws to stop them. You can get 16s on the exchanges if you still fancy Man City, was 8s a few days ago - potential champions don't collapse like they did against Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Sad to see Pellegrini get the sack (will forever love him for the job he did at Villarreal) but the best of a bad situation is to see Big Sam come back to the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 How about a return by Moyes? That Arsenal fiinal 10 minutes must have been booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Swift Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 It benefits my team this time, but holy shit I really dislike the offside by millimetres VAR decisions. Yes, technically if we're dealing in absolutes then yes, the Wolves player was offside, but it just feels like a really cheap decision. The precise nitpickiness of it all has taken some of the fun out of the game. I look at the Wolves goal and think "fair enough, that's a goal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFozzie Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Even though the VAR claim helps the team I would like to see win the Premier League, I think that we really need to establish the same category as NFL's use of video reversal, ie "If you have to scroll in 5x to see, then it's not clear and obvious." I guess this is the natural offspring of "Let it play to make sure a goal scoring chance is not wasted unnecessarily", but man, I can see how rage-inducing it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Birmingham vs Leeds was a bit mental. 0-1, 0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 4-5. And somehow West Brom contrived to lose to Middlesbrough. Oh, and Rangers beat Celtic away for the first time in like a decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, AxB said: Birmingham vs Leeds was a bit mental. 0-1, 0-2, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 4-5. And somehow West Brom contrived to lose to Middlesbrough. Oh, and Rangers beat Celtic away for the first time in like a decade. Yeah, just heard the Birmingham-Leeds final score and was going to tag you in a post. Got your money's worth if you were in the away end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, AxB said: Oh, and Rangers beat Celtic away for the first time in like a decade. Wouldn't this be the first time they've ever won away at Celtic? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 People are beginning to again talk about scrapping replay for the rest of the season. Bad as its application might be, playing half the season with it and half without would be a disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Haaland to BVB for a reasonable (transfer) fee (and fully unreasonable agent fee!). That's surprising as Juventus were rumoured to be finishing the deal soon. It was a release clause so that's why it was so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I figured he would stay in Germany, either Leipzig or Dortmund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 So the Daily Star took Pep Guardiola's Team of the Decade thing as an excuse to do a ten year Premier League table (well, top 10). And it's like this (Win-draw-loss) 1: Man City (251-65-65) GD +503, 818 pts 2: Man Utd (220-87-73) GD +316, 747 pts 3: Chelsea (220-80-80) GD +331, 740 pts 4: Liverpool (206-92-81) GD +314, 710 pts 5: Tottenham (206-85-89) GD +236, 703 pts 6: Arsenal (205-87-89) GD +266, 702 pts 7: Everton (151-114-116) GD +77, 567 pts 8: West Ham (104-91-146) GD -96, 403 pts 9: Stoke City (99-94-130) GD -102, 391 pts 10: Newcastle United (106-73-145) GD -103, 391 pts. So every team from 2010-2019 that isn't the big six or Everton has a losing record, a negative goal difference, and has spent at least one season outside the top flight. Money ruin football much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 And numbers 8-10 spent at least 1 season relegated in the Championship in that decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) On 1/1/2020 at 7:31 PM, AxB said: 8: West Ham (104-91-146) GD -96, 403 pts 9: Stoke City (99-94-130) GD -102, 391 pts 10: Newcastle United (106-73-145) GD -103, 391 pts. So every team from 2010-2019 that isn't the big six or Everton has a losing record, a negative goal difference, and has spent at least one season outside the top flight. Money ruin football much? If you ran a table of the 1980s, would it be that much different? (Edit: West Ham and Newcastle were both relegated in 1989, Stoke in 1985) Edited January 2, 2020 by ComingToAmerica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Liverpool passed Sheffield United to death lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 New Year - same dominant Liverpool. 365 days without a league loss and counting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 There was a long stretch where they were just holding on to leads or having to come from behind to get 3 points. Last little bit here has seen some comfortable displays. I am okay with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, ComingToAmerica said: If you ran a table of the 1980s, would it be that much different? (Edit: West Ham and Newcastle were both relegated in 1989, Stoke in 1985) Completely different, everyone's Premier League record would be 0-0-0. But in terms of League Division One in the 80s, Liverpool would be top, Chelsea and Man City would be much lower, Leeds would probably be in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 http://alltimeleaguetable.co.uk/ this site has the league table by decade and also over all 125 years. Top 5 all time: LFC, AFC, EFC, MUFC, AVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, AxB said: Completely different, everyone's Premier League record would be 0-0-0. But in terms of League Division One in the 80s, Liverpool would be top, Chelsea and Man City would be much lower, Leeds would probably be in there... Yes sure, some of the teams would be different - but you were suggesting that there would be a qualitative difference (due to money): I am questioning that. (Edit: I think the 1980s table backs that up, Villa in 8th and West Ham in 10th both spent time in Division 2. Coventry survived through the 80s and 90s. ) Edited January 2, 2020 by ComingToAmerica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Liverpool unbeaten for a year in the Premier League piece: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50688370 Edited January 3, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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