Custos Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 The crowd seemed to be sitting on their hands for the main but I’m not sure if it was exhaustion from the long show or if they were expecting Ronda and never really got into the story of the match itself. Or that the match itself wasn’t engaging. Shayna has had her bangers in the past but tends to be more methodical and character rather than work rate centric. Nothing about this Bayley appeals in the slightest. Look at what Dakota Kai did the previous night with her viciousness and compare to Bayley taking scissors to some inflatables... And Becky is good but doesn’t always bring her opponents up in terms of excitement and intrigue. I agree about the Seth relationship being a downer for Becky’s act. That is Roman Reigns all over again, with making sacrifices to the ‘greater good’ of strong-arming the desired response from the crowd for the number one face. The highlight for me was just switching off my brain and enjoying the mindless fun of the men’s 5v5v5 with bodies flying, getting slapped and slammed, and Keith Lee shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Every month I have over a few friends to watch the PPV's, and eat copious amounts of food. and over the course of the last 13 years my Colorado family has grown to appreciate and even enjoy wrestling. When my 23 year old nephew was 12 I took him to a house show and I took my little nephew and his folks to one in 2014 when the little guy was 4 and a half so he could see John Cena. At age 9 he still likes wrestling, (Rey Mysterio has been his favorite since he was a toddler), but he usually will just watch a little of the shows before it's his his bedtime. But last night was a little different. Two brothers, ages 8 and 10 moved across the street last year and the three of them have been a gang ever since. Yesterday, the three of them came into the house as the pre-show was ending and the neighbor kids were like, "Is this wrestling? Is it fake?" and had a million questions. By the end of the last pre-show match they were hooked. The only wrestlers they've ever heard of are Cena and for some reason, Big Show but they'd never actually watched. The three of them were totally into it, and at one point the brothers had to go home for a bit, but asked if they could come back over later . After an hour they came running back, and we all watched the rest of the show and had a great time. Now, they want to come over for every PPV and it's awesome. My nephew was enjoying it far more with his pals, and so did I. Watching with a living room full of family, friends, and kids is the best. They were cheering for their favorites and booing the the wrestlers they didn't like, particularly Brock and Bayley. They loved Rey, The Fiend, and Keith Lee the most. The two bros want Fiend T shirts after seeing the shop zone ad, which is hilarious. And they're jazzed for TLC because the idea that people go through tables was blowing their minds. It's a lot more fun to watch the rasslin' with a living room full of people, and a plate full of Italian sausage. Edited November 26, 2019 by Johnny Sorrow 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamBroken Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Didn't care about most of this show except Brock/Rey - which was awesome. Dominick's burst of ass kicking. The double 619 and frog splash. Absolutely amazing near fall that would've been that much better without Vic's "we have a new champion! we have a new champion!" telegraphing commentary. Gotta admit I would've popped if Rey won off that, but the actual finish was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, DreamBroken said: Didn't care about most of this show except Brock/Rey - which was awesome. Dominick's burst of ass kicking. The double 619 and frog splash. Absolutely amazing near fall that would've been that much better without Vic's "we have a new champion! we have a new champion!" telegraphing commentary. Gotta admit I would've popped if Rey won off that, but the actual finish was pretty cool. This is definitely a highlight in Rey's career since he returned. Being on Raw with Heyman as Booker really makes a difference with Rey in WWE because otherwise he treated a just another guy. I wasn't expecting much in this match but it was cool. I started to come down after the Mens Survivor tag but this got me up. I hope Domonik doesn't get rushed into a regular main roster spot because he'll be over by the time the Angle is done. I hope he's good enough as a worker by the time he works actual matches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 hours ago, MoeCristyV.1.6 said: Bringing that relationship to the main show killed much of her pop. Why cheer someone who is with Seth Rollins. He is the worst. it also makes it that much more difficult to turn Rollins heel which, overprescribed as that remedy might be, does seem to be a good fix for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIShane Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Fun show on the whole, but two moments that mystified me: - The level of protection Sasha got with NXT having to cheat despite Rhea being a face, Sasha being a heel, and Sasha not really doing much besides being Bayley’s lackey at the moment. It undercut NXT’s win for no real reason. - The post main-event segment, which undercut Shayna’s win, made Becky look like a bad sport, and felt like the most pointless ‘Hogan must pose’ sequence we’ve seen in a long time. I also felt the three of them lacked chemistry, with a very slow pace and some pretty striking botches like them messing up Bayley’s sunset flip bomb into the corner. And that’s besides constant Ronda teasing all night that didn’t get paid off. It was an odd main event. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RIShane said: Fun show on the whole, but two moments that mystified me: - The level of protection Sasha got with NXT having to cheat despite Rhea being a face, Sasha being a heel, and Sasha not really doing much besides being Bayley’s lackey at the moment. It undercut NXT’s win for no real reason. - The post main-event segment, which undercut Shayna’s win, made Becky look like a bad sport, and felt like the most pointless ‘Hogan must pose’ sequence we’ve seen in a long time. I also felt the three of them lacked chemistry, with a very slow pace and some pretty striking botches like them messing up Bayley’s sunset flip bomb into the corner. And that’s besides constant Ronda teasing all night that didn’t get paid off. It was an odd main event. I'd agree with both of those, particularly the latter. Edited November 26, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Damnit that double frog splash double 619 should have been the finish! Just once let us have the babyface people actually like win the big one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 18 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Becky might be approaching "then the bell rang..." and I'm not sure why. There's a lot of evidence now of her being super over in promos and brawls but far less so during the actual matches. She's not having bad matches but something about her isn't keeping people engaged. her fiancé Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 hours ago, BobbyWhioux said: it also makes it that much more difficult to turn Rollins heel which, overprescribed as that remedy might be, does seem to be a good fix for him. neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Becky might be approaching "then the bell rang..." and I'm not sure why. There's a lot of evidence now of her being super over in promos and brawls but far less so during the actual matches. She's not having bad matches but something about her isn't keeping people engaged. Biggest flaw with Becky as a worker is she doesn’t have any real big crowd popping spots. I know she is a good wrestler, but her expertise was always in things like chain wrestling, which flat out doesn’t pop crowds in 2019. Worth noting I’m totally taking that talking point from PWO, who were talking about and nailing this point on Sunday. Edited November 26, 2019 by The Man Known as Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I think one thing is the zip is off the fastball of her being this ass kicker when she's truly the pun loving, silly person inside. The strength of the character needs a naturally angry person and Becky's not that. Otherwise, The Man Known as Dan is correct that her moveset doesn't have the oomph. Her strikes don't have fire on them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Becky could use her own Natural Selection-type snap secondary finish. The Dis-Arm-Her is fine but it’s not locked in like a Sharpshooter or Figure 8 and it doesn’t look nasty like the Bank Statement. Maybe something like Kota Ibushi’s hand holding knee to face move. Simple, quick, effective, and she can call it B’s Knees or a similarly silly pun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Give her the Rude Awakening. It always looks like death. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Becky should’ve been using the Stunner all along. Fuck Kevin Owens. Edited November 26, 2019 by Overly Critical Man 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIShane Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 12 hours ago, The Man Known as Dan said: Biggest flaw with Becky as a worker is she doesn’t have any real big crowd popping spots. I know she is a good wrestler, but her expertise was always in things like chain wrestling, which flat out doesn’t pop crowds in 2019. Worth noting I’m totally taking that talking point from PWO, who were talking about and nailing this point on Sunday. And her style doesn’t really use much chain stuff anymore. I also think it’s a problem that aerial moves are so prominent in her moveset when they’re a weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Genuinely surprised @The Natural or somebody wasn't all over Ricochet's Batman Beyond inspired gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Genuinely surprised @The Natural or somebody wasn't all over Ricochet's Batman Beyond inspired gear. I forgot. Thank you for the reminder, @West Newbury Bad Boy. Batman Beyond is a cooler name to Batman of the Future. Ricochet's done Nightwing and now Batman Beyond. Hope he keeps repping the Batman side of things. After all, Batman's the greatest comic book hero of all time ;). Edited November 28, 2019 by The Natural 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Will Friedle tweeted about it and him and Ricochet got to talking about Boy Meets World and now Will wants a Plays With Squirrels costume next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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