Wyld Samurai Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Natural said: Rey Mysterio as Joker (2019). ... no... he was totally Doink. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 El Payaso Mysterio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Revenge for WrestleMania XXXIV and dropping the WWE Smackdown Women's Championship to Charlotte Flair earlier in the year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Infinit said: If they were going to put Cole over tonight, they should've had Priest pin Dain or Dain pin Priest on Saturday night and save the Dunne defence for the future. And why book WALTER if they were just going to job him out first?? Knowing the WWE mentality, it was to put him in his place. Show how he's just a large fish in an entire ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The two 5 man tags felt disjointed but the men's was good once it got down to the final few. Glad Keith Lee looked good, hopefully wwe doesn't screw it up with him. That crowd was burnt out for the women's main event. Shayna needs to lose to Ripley and move up. Didn't like Brock and Rey's ending. Just felt so, so flat. Rey winning on the double team with his son could have been so unique. But instead... Brock retains. Who is next for Brock right now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph2112 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Phantom Lord said: Knowing the WWE mentality, it was to put him in his place. Show how he's just a large fish in an entire ocean. Didn't WALTER pretty much play hardball with WWE where he got some contract concessions about only working in Europe, etc? If so, that's probably the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angel Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) They need to stop with the virtual boy shit for The Fiend's matches. Edited November 25, 2019 by Black Angel 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I know that the booking of this entire saga has been to bring up NXT so that it is on equal footing with the other brands and this PPV seemed to accomplish that mission with the glaring omission of Adam Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I don’t get it. Wwe can’t make nXt folks stars on their own show, so they sacrifice actual stars from the shows people actually watch to satisfy some deep desire to remind their audience that “no one on any of our shows is a star!” Roderick Strong had zero business Going over AJ and Nak, and the nXt women running roughshod over so many wwe midcard women makes the main roster folks look totally useless. I thought the red lighting was better for the Fiend. Seemed a little lighter. If they switched the plain/red ratio in the lights, I think it’d work. sorry. I think part of the reason I get down on nXt so much is that I’d once hoped the product would get better after Vince goes away. But other than the anointing of Rhea, nothing I’ve seen from hhh in terms of who he picks as a top star and the methods employed to make them a Star makes me think it’ll be any different. Adam Cole, really? He’s Seth Rollins if Rollins weren’t freakishly athletic. I get the Keith Lee thing. But I see no reason to expect Shayna Baszler to have any effect on the women’s division, particularly at 39 years old. There was no reason for her to win that match, except again reminding the audience that the main show championships don’t matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The Fiend fucking sucks. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 12:49 PM, The Natural said: I can see why Fiend vs. Daniel Bryan is happening: Daniel Bryan had Bray Wyatt's best singles match ever at the 2014 Royal Rumble. If WWE wants the Fiend to get boos to go with the cheers, Bryan is the only potential opponent for that to happen with. People love Daniel Bryan. Fiend gets to go over someone credible and Bryan puts people over better than anybody. I don't think WWE is thinking that deep, True Bryan proved once again that he is his best opponent but I think Bryan was just as another big name for him to beat, I expect them to move on from this. After the whole angle with Bryan Rowan and Roman flopped , they turned him face and used him as another top challenger to The Fiend. I like the Fiend Character but " then the bell rang " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I've just finished the 5-5-5 Man's match. Wow. That shit delivered in spades. I owe Keith Lee an apology. I am retracting my statement that I only see his ceiling as a mid-card comedy act. That MF made me a believer this weekend. Screw challenging Cole, put him in the main events against Brock. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I don't think WWE is thinking that deep, True Bryan proved once again that he is his best opponent but I think Bryan was just as another big name for him to beat, I expect them to move on from this. After the whole angle with Bryan Rowan and Roman flopped , they turned him face and used him as another top challenger to The Fiend. I like the Fiend Character but " then the bell rang " I actually was a bit nervous watching the match because Bryan does have a concussion history in working with Bray, and there is an emphasis on taking big bumps when watching The Fiend. Bryan got probably the best match possible out of Fiend. Although, I'm already done on the character. It's a lose-lose from a booking perspective. The red light and making big moves look meaningless is kind of learning all of the wrong things from booking a monster. It's going for Undertaker while not realizing why that character worked. Also, understanding that character works better in the pre-internet 90s than it does in 2019. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Don't know how credible the account is. Edited November 25, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I thought The Fiend Bray Wyatt would kick out of Daniel Bryan's running knee but I was concerned he'd no sell it. Thankfully that didn't happen. Bryan's running knee is one of WWE's most protected finishers. The only wrestlers to kick out of Daniel Bryan's running knee: Randy Orton, WrestleMania XXX. Roman Reigns, Fastlane 2015. Brock Lesnar, Survivor Series 2018 X2. Kofi Kingston, Elimination Chamber 2019 and WrestleMania XXXV. The Fiend Bray Wyatt, Survivor Series 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 My main takeaways from this weekend. Ripley and Lee fucking rule. Adam Cole fucking sucks. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I watched mostly for the women’s matches and despite some silliness I thought they delivered. Big weekend for Rhea and Keith Lee but they deserve it, especially Lee. They could both win the belts this week and hold them forever and everyone would be on board. The WALTER elimination is a bummer but at least he looked good against Braun first instead of getting one shotted like Mark Henry a few years back. I don’t think it hurt him at all, I just wanted to see him wrestle more. They could’ve put off Cole/Dunne and the main would’ve had more heat and I’m sad to see Kofi on the pre-show but aside from that I thought it was a solid if overpopulated show. Kind of amazed they pulled off matches with that many people and few if any miscues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 There was one point in the 5x3 way where Keith did this crazy ass jumping hook kick and my jaw dropped to the ground. A guy that big has no right to be that agile or achieve that kinda height. I should probably go back and watch more of his indy stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rehabilitated Rick said: There was one point in the 5x3 way where Keith did this crazy ass jumping hook kick and my jaw dropped to the ground. A guy that big has no right to be that agile or achieve that kinda height. I should probably go back and watch more of his indy stuff. Bask in his glory This show proved once again that, if creative could get the fuck out of their way, this roster is absurdly stacked. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 The men's 5vs5vs5 should have closed the show if Rhonda wasn't returning or something else interesting. Becky cheap shotting Shayna was a flat ending. The whole match felt off. Hard to blame Shayna given she had been in a war games match 24 hours prior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Rehabilitated Rick said: There was one point in the 5x3 way where Keith did this crazy ass jumping hook kick and my jaw dropped to the ground. A guy that big has no right to be that agile or achieve that kinda height. I should probably go back and watch more of his indy stuff. I forgot about that. Yeah, me and the watch party popped for that. AND the replay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Becky might be approaching "then the bell rang..." and I'm not sure why. There's a lot of evidence now of her being super over in promos and brawls but far less so during the actual matches. She's not having bad matches but something about her isn't keeping people engaged. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 8 hours ago, just drew said: I don’t get it. Wwe can’t make nXt folks stars on their own show, so they sacrifice actual stars from the shows people actually watch to satisfy some deep desire to remind their audience that “no one on any of our shows is a star!” Roderick Strong had zero business Going over AJ and Nak, and the nXt women running roughshod over so many wwe midcard women makes the main roster folks look totally useless. I thought the red lighting was better for the Fiend. Seemed a little lighter. If they switched the plain/red ratio in the lights, I think it’d work. sorry. I think part of the reason I get down on nXt so much is that I’d once hoped the product would get better after Vince goes away. But other than the anointing of Rhea, nothing I’ve seen from hhh in terms of who he picks as a top star and the methods employed to make them a Star makes me think it’ll be any different. Adam Cole, really? He’s Seth Rollins if Rollins weren’t freakishly athletic. I get the Keith Lee thing. But I see no reason to expect Shayna Baszler to have any effect on the women’s division, particularly at 39 years old. There was no reason for her to win that match, except again reminding the audience that the main show championships don’t matter. I think they've made Keith Lee into a star after last night but I believe NXT going over is a more of a result of AEW being a thing, so WWE allowed the hot newer brand lead in wins last night. I'm not complaining at all but I would think they would've put Smackdown over more because of the FOX deal and honestly because of the recent draft Raw and SDLive are sorta reset in comparison to NXT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Becky might be approaching "then the bell rang..." and I'm not sure why. There's a lot of evidence now of her being super over in promos and brawls but far less so during the actual matches. She's not having bad matches but something about her isn't keeping people engaged. She's taking in ring advice from her fiance? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Bringing that relationship to the main show killed much of her pop. Why cheer someone who is with Seth Rollins. He is the worst. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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